Sandy, the difference between you and I is you believe that voters are rational actors open to persuasion whereas I believe voters are amoral and stupid. When you view the 2024 election through a moral prism, the 49.8% who voted for Trump were willing to overlook that a) he mismanaged a pandemic to the tune of 700K excess deaths, b) atte…
Sandy, the difference between you and I is you believe that voters are rational actors open to persuasion whereas I believe voters are amoral and stupid. When you view the 2024 election through a moral prism, the 49.8% who voted for Trump were willing to overlook that a) he mismanaged a pandemic to the tune of 700K excess deaths, b) attempted a violent overthrow of the government, c) was found civilly liable for sexual assault and d) was convicted on 34 felonies in New York State. Voting for Trump with that record is the biggest dereliction of civic duty of my lifetime. As for stupidity, did these swing voters honestly believe that once Trump was inaugurated, prices would come down? Trump made it quite clear on a regular basis during the campaign that should he win, he would use tariffs as an economic weapon of war. Did these swing voters not hear him, or did they not take him seriously? Trump's doing what he said he was going to do, and when these swing voters go to the grocery store and pay more for produce or go to Walmart to buy Chinese made goods that are suddenly more expensive, whose fault is that? When airfare is more expensive because the cost of building aircraft goes up due to Trump's tariffs, or the price of housing goes up due to tariffs on lumber, whose fault is that? Simple: it's the voters fault.
I do not trust people to use their reason or their better angels when it comes to politics and elections. And if it sounds like I'm angry, it's because I am. I've spent my entire adult life in service of the national defense only to watch these swing voting jackholes give the nuclear codes to a sundowning narcissistic sociopath. The life I've built for myself and my wife is at risk all because these people couldn't deal with short term economic disruption due to Trump's ineptitude.
Tim, the difference between you and me is in who you define as the voters. The 49.8% is not all MAGA. There’s not enough MAGA to get to that percentage. Agreed all of MAGA is amoral and stupid; except that I think their behavior and receptivity to Trump is based on their fear of the social change of the last 6O years which Trump exploits 24/7 and you do not. They think Trump will stop and reverse that change.
If the goal is to reduce Trump’s approval rating, the Trump voters most receptive to the corruption message will be the 1O% or so who voted for Biden in 2O2O and voted for Trump in 2O24.
Approval ratings are ephemeral, a transient in a long steady state of history. What really needs to happen is the GOP paying a long term price for their malevolence.
Sandy, the difference between you and I is you believe that voters are rational actors open to persuasion whereas I believe voters are amoral and stupid. When you view the 2024 election through a moral prism, the 49.8% who voted for Trump were willing to overlook that a) he mismanaged a pandemic to the tune of 700K excess deaths, b) attempted a violent overthrow of the government, c) was found civilly liable for sexual assault and d) was convicted on 34 felonies in New York State. Voting for Trump with that record is the biggest dereliction of civic duty of my lifetime. As for stupidity, did these swing voters honestly believe that once Trump was inaugurated, prices would come down? Trump made it quite clear on a regular basis during the campaign that should he win, he would use tariffs as an economic weapon of war. Did these swing voters not hear him, or did they not take him seriously? Trump's doing what he said he was going to do, and when these swing voters go to the grocery store and pay more for produce or go to Walmart to buy Chinese made goods that are suddenly more expensive, whose fault is that? When airfare is more expensive because the cost of building aircraft goes up due to Trump's tariffs, or the price of housing goes up due to tariffs on lumber, whose fault is that? Simple: it's the voters fault.
I do not trust people to use their reason or their better angels when it comes to politics and elections. And if it sounds like I'm angry, it's because I am. I've spent my entire adult life in service of the national defense only to watch these swing voting jackholes give the nuclear codes to a sundowning narcissistic sociopath. The life I've built for myself and my wife is at risk all because these people couldn't deal with short term economic disruption due to Trump's ineptitude.
Tim, the difference between you and me is in who you define as the voters. The 49.8% is not all MAGA. There’s not enough MAGA to get to that percentage. Agreed all of MAGA is amoral and stupid; except that I think their behavior and receptivity to Trump is based on their fear of the social change of the last 6O years which Trump exploits 24/7 and you do not. They think Trump will stop and reverse that change.
If the goal is to reduce Trump’s approval rating, the Trump voters most receptive to the corruption message will be the 1O% or so who voted for Biden in 2O2O and voted for Trump in 2O24.
Forget about MAGA.
Approval ratings are ephemeral, a transient in a long steady state of history. What really needs to happen is the GOP paying a long term price for their malevolence.
They sure weren’t for Biden. They crashed after the Afghanistan pullout and never recovered.
At any rate, I guess JVL is wrong?