They can. Whether they chose to do so is a another matter, and if a Republican retakes the WH then if course they would drop the effort. And by then Trump will probably be dead anyway.
All you need to do is ask what Republicans like Jim Jordan would say if Biden, Obama, or Clinton were facing the same charges as Trump faces.
In plainer terms, if Trump does/did it, whatever it is is perfectly OK with most Republicans. If others did it, that could be used to defend Trump in the sense of teenagers telling their parents all their friends did the same thing. If no one else did it, well, that's still OK because Trump is just so darned special.
As long as Trump is the best cudgel with which to beat the non-Right, in no small part because Trump causes the most/loudest howls from the non-Right, the Right will excuse anything Trump does. Sadly for everyone outside the Right, their reaction to Trump, understandable as it may be, just makes Trump more powerful among the Right.
I have to add that this includes The Bulwark and me for posting this comment. We work against our own interests in this. Getting rid of Trump requires depriving him of is air time.
Since Chris Christie is the most likely candidate to speak the truth about Trump, we should all donate a small amount of money to his campaign so he can reach the 40,000 donor threshold to be on the debate stage. I won't be voting for Christie, but I want him on that stage delivering blows to Trump.
Hugh Hewitt - who's tried for decades to position himself as the sane, intellectual conservative (he was Chuck Todd's guest for years on MTP) - tweeted "I just read the indictment and my reaction is: That's it?"
Have spent most of the day thinking about this terribly depressing Mornibg Bulwark. And of course the Bulwark could be right as it often is.
But tfg (no caps deliberate) could have a turn out in Miami like NYC where there were more reporters.
But I realize that this edition was not just about tomorrow’s indictment. So I checked my memory - 1000 cases brought by the DOJ with some hefty jail terms. How can this not be a deterrent? Naive? Perhaps but I am going with that for now.
Shane's Little Book Reviews analyzes Patrick Deneen's new book calling for Onward Christian Soldiers to govern America so the ordinary people may be, um, better:
"Populists" in that camp think ordinary people don't have the capacity to choose their own religion or worldview., or their own "meaning and purpose," so it needs to be provided by the state.
But not a liberal state, mind you. There be the road to tyranny.
If it's an officially Christain state, with the establishment clause repealed, then everyone will know what they should believe, and there will be "unity" -- yes, some people believe that -- and everyone will be entirely free to live as tradcons prefer.
It's as if they've missed all the centuries of history that demonstrate the downside of a state-enforced creed.
Very well said, Carol, thanks for this. It's insulting how feeble-minded these "leaders" believe everyday Americans are. We're more than capable of making life decisions for ourselves, they just don't like what we decide, hence, their "for your own good" prattle.
They want to live in a Christian state, they can move to one--ours is no such thing.
What I find the most amazing is how Trump supporters can so blindly accept his word as the truth when everything that condemns him has multiple layers of facts, pictorial records, audio recordings etc. It is chilling to see someone so bad for this country, loved by a significant minority of Americans. It is almost like his followers are similar to the Nazi's worship of Hitler.
Regarding Elise Stefanik, no surprise at the grift . She learned from the best .
They can. Whether they chose to do so is a another matter, and if a Republican retakes the WH then if course they would drop the effort. And by then Trump will probably be dead anyway.
The "Marxist Left"? Like Bill Barr, Trump's own appointed AG, who defended him, and still defends him on other possble crimes he committed?
Charlie, two points. First, it's utterly calculated. See Fintan O'Toole, https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/06/10/the-ultimate-deal/
But, and second, I'm reminded of Dr. Strangelove. Telepathic declassification makes sense only if you tell the world about it AT THE TIME.
All you need to do is ask what Republicans like Jim Jordan would say if Biden, Obama, or Clinton were facing the same charges as Trump faces.
In plainer terms, if Trump does/did it, whatever it is is perfectly OK with most Republicans. If others did it, that could be used to defend Trump in the sense of teenagers telling their parents all their friends did the same thing. If no one else did it, well, that's still OK because Trump is just so darned special.
As long as Trump is the best cudgel with which to beat the non-Right, in no small part because Trump causes the most/loudest howls from the non-Right, the Right will excuse anything Trump does. Sadly for everyone outside the Right, their reaction to Trump, understandable as it may be, just makes Trump more powerful among the Right.
I have to add that this includes The Bulwark and me for posting this comment. We work against our own interests in this. Getting rid of Trump requires depriving him of is air time.
Bring it……FAFO
Since Chris Christie is the most likely candidate to speak the truth about Trump, we should all donate a small amount of money to his campaign so he can reach the 40,000 donor threshold to be on the debate stage. I won't be voting for Christie, but I want him on that stage delivering blows to Trump.
Hugh Hewitt - who's tried for decades to position himself as the sane, intellectual conservative (he was Chuck Todd's guest for years on MTP) - tweeted "I just read the indictment and my reaction is: That's it?"
Let’s just assume that Hugh can’t read anymore than, shall we?
*then
Have spent most of the day thinking about this terribly depressing Mornibg Bulwark. And of course the Bulwark could be right as it often is.
But tfg (no caps deliberate) could have a turn out in Miami like NYC where there were more reporters.
But I realize that this edition was not just about tomorrow’s indictment. So I checked my memory - 1000 cases brought by the DOJ with some hefty jail terms. How can this not be a deterrent? Naive? Perhaps but I am going with that for now.
The Prophet Lindsay Graham said a few years ago: "If we nominate Trump - it will destroy us."
Pity he didn't believe it.
This is interesting. Turley ON FOX is saying Trump can die in prison if he's convicted of just one of the 37. Turley! https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4045592-fox-news-turley-trump-could-face-terminal-sentence-if-doj-proves-even-one-count/. And Fox - is Rupert finally cutting him off?
He would say that they are patriots.
Shane's Little Book Reviews analyzes Patrick Deneen's new book calling for Onward Christian Soldiers to govern America so the ordinary people may be, um, better:
"Fuck this guy."
"Populists" in that camp think ordinary people don't have the capacity to choose their own religion or worldview., or their own "meaning and purpose," so it needs to be provided by the state.
But not a liberal state, mind you. There be the road to tyranny.
If it's an officially Christain state, with the establishment clause repealed, then everyone will know what they should believe, and there will be "unity" -- yes, some people believe that -- and everyone will be entirely free to live as tradcons prefer.
It's as if they've missed all the centuries of history that demonstrate the downside of a state-enforced creed.
Very well said, Carol, thanks for this. It's insulting how feeble-minded these "leaders" believe everyday Americans are. We're more than capable of making life decisions for ourselves, they just don't like what we decide, hence, their "for your own good" prattle.
They want to live in a Christian state, they can move to one--ours is no such thing.
What I find the most amazing is how Trump supporters can so blindly accept his word as the truth when everything that condemns him has multiple layers of facts, pictorial records, audio recordings etc. It is chilling to see someone so bad for this country, loved by a significant minority of Americans. It is almost like his followers are similar to the Nazi's worship of Hitler.
I’m
Another chance for someone from the right to stop the crazy. Instead they double down...
again. Thank you for them updates Charlie,
I wish it was a movie plot not America we were talking about.