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Also, my full, contextual statement was "Nuke right now offers the best bang for the buck in terms of energy density and reliability vs. social/ecological cost."

This isn't about profitability, this is about providing grid power for a planet with over seven billion people on it.

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What I believe to be the actual intractable problem concerning energy supply is the underlying premise of capitalism that a business isnтАЩt successful unless it is getting bigger. To encourage that, we have constructed a consumer society which encourages us to buy more and more consumables whether we need them or not. There are billion-dollar industries dedicated to encouraging us to spend money we donтАЩt even have to buy stuff we donтАЩt even want. We have to change our consumer behaviour and buy less, spend less, consume and travel less so we use less energy.

But buying less is incompatible with capitalism. The multiple alternate energy sources combined with a decreasing demand for energy could result in humans having a planet we are not destroying but it will take all of us understanding what we must do - consume less of everything. Those of us in developed countries could still live a happy existance if we decided to live within our environmental means while simultaneously helping less-developed countries raise their standard of living to be more equitable. Every parent in any country just wants to raise their child to have a happy, healthy, meaningful life. A parent in the Democratic Republic of Congo loves their child as much as any parent in the United States or Germany and every child should have an equal opportunity to live, learn and grow.

We have to decrease our consumer behaviour to bring about a world with greater equality and a livable future for us all. The single greatest threat to that future is consumer capitalism. The big money interests are not going to give their billions up willingly. How do we change things so they realize we all must change our behaviour - even you, Elon Musk.

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Capitalism has been a cancer on our society, and one of the biggest problems we've had is that as tumors erupted everywhere, a segment of society was dedicated to convincing us that having cancer was the greatest thing ever.

But.

We aren't going to end capitalism in ten years.

Do we need to revamp our social model to center around something besides 'make more'? Hell yes we do.

But right now, we need to take the key steps for there to be a tenable future in which we can get about convincing people that there are better, healthier ways to go about coexisting.

We can talk about these things while we're doing the needful, but what we can't afford is to avoid doing the needful in favor of talking about the wishful.

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