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Bart Gellman: Stealing Democracy Right before Our Eyes
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Bart Gellman: Stealing Democracy Right before Our Eyes

Charlie Sykes
Dec 09, 2021
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Trump's official power as president wasn't what got him so close to toppling the 2020 election. It was his ability to convince supporters that black is white, and up is down — and they're preparing for next time. The Atlantic's Bart Gellman joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast.

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