Any apprentice who wants to join Trump's ticket has to prove they won't accept the election results unless Trump wins—and Tim Scott shows he is a willing collaborator.
True most of the Democrats don't care about the protesters. I bet most of the protesters are probably either not American or not people who would ever vote for Biden.
Oh, Bill Kristol!!: "maybe Cricket wasn't killed and he is living happily somewhere or, perhaps Cricket never existed? This is top shelf slap-stick hilarious humor that leverages the Republican compulsion for lying about everything. Awesome!
I live in CA. Maybe hour or so from Mexico/San Diego border. I NEVER hear anyone complain about the illegals coming over. We need gardeners, farm works, service jobs. We don't want to pay $15 an hour for those jobs. We are fine with Biden.
I am one of those old-school empty-headed liberals that's been finding somw comfort at the Bulwark - and I hate when old-school Republicans pop up with old-school GOP ideas, like about keeping wages low so i can have my comforts without paying fairly for them. How is anyone supposed to live decently on less than $15 an hour doing hard labor jobs? Please tell me it's a joke in bad taste.
Democracy can not function without a minimally prosperous citizenry.
Tim I think you are right with respect to the protests and immigration. The protests fundamentally affect very few people but do look like disorder. What I don’t understand about people who bitch about them is what they expect Biden to do? It’s not like he can force Columbia or USC or any other university to do something about it. It isn’t his job and if he did then I don’t want to hear anyone complain if trump does the same thing in 2025. In his speech he supported free speech and is against intimidation, vandalism, violence and antisemitism. If that isn’t enough to make a center right voter vote for Biden then they were never going to vote for Biden. They are just looking for excuses.
The debt issue is wholly Republican issue. The reason no one cares about it is that for 50 years republicans told us we were going. To collapse because of the debt. Then they would come into office and massively increase debt. You know what happened? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. You can’t cry wolf for 50 years and not expect the voters to just tune you out.
While I understand how evil Donald Trump is and I won't ever make any excuses for him, I think we blame him too much for his acolytes becoming Trumpists. Tim Scott, Marco Rubio, JD Vance, etc. were all fundamentally corrupt human beings with no standards long before Donald Trump. All Trump has done is bring sunshine to these people not fundamentally change who they are as people. Not from the Bulwark staff, but other traditional Republicans have spent years trying to prop up people like Vance, Scott, Rubio, Cotton, ... as conservative and the opposite has been true. They are disgusting opportunists that are a natural fit for Trump not people corrupted by Trump.
Trump made it even easier for them. Now it's just whatever he thinks I agree with. They don't even need to know what they believe at the moment (to be most advantageous). they just sync with Trump.
I don't know. Maybe they have to pretend in public that they have some thoughts on any question, hence the word salads. The GOP came in for some serious ridicule for the 2020 platform, "Whatever Trump wants."
Embarrassingly, I probably get 90% of my sports news from the Bulwark podcast. But the sports news is kind of good to know. Who couldn't use a healthy distraction.
Right now the latest performance audition for Trumpster's VP is not accepting the 2024 vote if he loses. We saw it over the weekend with Tim Scott and Doug Bergum. Next up, Hillbilly Vance and Little Marco.
Of course. If they didn't, than that means Trump lost. Trump can't stand a loser. So he can't possibly be a loser. Too bad all the Republican men have cut off their "you know what" In order to be Trump's slave girls. Do they have any idea how pathetic they look?
Next time when any network has somebody on(like Scott,Bergum or Noem),be really prepared to follow up. Fact check with facts instantly.This can be done without seemingly being partisan or rude. The best at it was Tim Russert. As for Tim Scott, pull out the Tim reply: "Already, I've had enough". Then simply state that all swing states have had three recounts.And 60+ court cases found no evidence of fraud.And that includes the SCOTUS. Simple. Case closed.
Today's episode was nearly perfect. It started off with Tim baiting bill into running smack about the Nuggets (hate them too Bill, but damn, they sure are fun to watch), and the episode ended with Tim dropping an Alex P Keaton reference. In-between was, as always, a great discussion from the brilliant minds at The Bulwark. Keep up the good work!
Hey Tim, a note of caution on that Politico piece about protest funding. I think you should reread the piece to include the correction at the bottom of the piece. Because the entire premise of the story is debunked in the correction.
“CORRECTION: An earlier version of this report misstated that The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation seeds the Tides Foundation’s work. It no longer has active grants to Tides. It also said POLITICO contacted Gates. POLITICO contacted an agency that has represented the Gates Foundation but did not reach out directly to Gates. It said IfNotNow was one of two of the main organizations behind the protests. IfNotNow is supporting protests, but students are leading them. And it misstated the year Rockefeller Brothers Fund donated to Tides and that the donations to Jewish Voice for Peace went through an intermediary. The donations to Tides took place prior to 2022, and the Fund directly contributed to Jewish Voice for Peace.”
I’m with Tim in thinking that Noem might not be quite ready for prime time and give another possibility for the KJU confusion. She and Cory Lewandowski went to a Halloween party, she was Eva Braun and he was KJU?
Also gosh darn it, I’m such a Bill Kristol Stan. It’s weird to Stan pundits but yeah, it’s just like a pina colada for the soul to hear such thoughtful, reasoned, reflective comments about the state of things. He reminds me to think the best of people, he’s very fair, it’s very centering and I appreciate him so much. 🙂
Columbia's cancellation is sad for those graduating students who didnt get a HS graduation as well during covid either
True most of the Democrats don't care about the protesters. I bet most of the protesters are probably either not American or not people who would ever vote for Biden.
Oh, Bill Kristol!!: "maybe Cricket wasn't killed and he is living happily somewhere or, perhaps Cricket never existed? This is top shelf slap-stick hilarious humor that leverages the Republican compulsion for lying about everything. Awesome!
I live in CA. Maybe hour or so from Mexico/San Diego border. I NEVER hear anyone complain about the illegals coming over. We need gardeners, farm works, service jobs. We don't want to pay $15 an hour for those jobs. We are fine with Biden.
I am one of those old-school empty-headed liberals that's been finding somw comfort at the Bulwark - and I hate when old-school Republicans pop up with old-school GOP ideas, like about keeping wages low so i can have my comforts without paying fairly for them. How is anyone supposed to live decently on less than $15 an hour doing hard labor jobs? Please tell me it's a joke in bad taste.
Democracy can not function without a minimally prosperous citizenry.
Hense the value in employing migrant workers from South of the border. Republicans have in back asswards
A bunch of thoughts…
Tim I think you are right with respect to the protests and immigration. The protests fundamentally affect very few people but do look like disorder. What I don’t understand about people who bitch about them is what they expect Biden to do? It’s not like he can force Columbia or USC or any other university to do something about it. It isn’t his job and if he did then I don’t want to hear anyone complain if trump does the same thing in 2025. In his speech he supported free speech and is against intimidation, vandalism, violence and antisemitism. If that isn’t enough to make a center right voter vote for Biden then they were never going to vote for Biden. They are just looking for excuses.
The debt issue is wholly Republican issue. The reason no one cares about it is that for 50 years republicans told us we were going. To collapse because of the debt. Then they would come into office and massively increase debt. You know what happened? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. You can’t cry wolf for 50 years and not expect the voters to just tune you out.
Tim and Bill,
Nice work taking the verbal wire brush to Andrew to get the residual Dispatch stank off of him.
While I understand how evil Donald Trump is and I won't ever make any excuses for him, I think we blame him too much for his acolytes becoming Trumpists. Tim Scott, Marco Rubio, JD Vance, etc. were all fundamentally corrupt human beings with no standards long before Donald Trump. All Trump has done is bring sunshine to these people not fundamentally change who they are as people. Not from the Bulwark staff, but other traditional Republicans have spent years trying to prop up people like Vance, Scott, Rubio, Cotton, ... as conservative and the opposite has been true. They are disgusting opportunists that are a natural fit for Trump not people corrupted by Trump.
Totally agree. They were always snakes. Because of Trump they can say the quiet parts out loud.
I've come to see our current crop of politicians as diligent students of Groucho. "Those are my principles. If you don't like those, I have others."
Trump made it even easier for them. Now it's just whatever he thinks I agree with. They don't even need to know what they believe at the moment (to be most advantageous). they just sync with Trump.
I don't know. Maybe they have to pretend in public that they have some thoughts on any question, hence the word salads. The GOP came in for some serious ridicule for the 2020 platform, "Whatever Trump wants."
I wouldn’t have thought so before Trump but wow was I proven wrong.
It kind of doesn’t matter the reason. This is now who they are.
Mike Collins did put out a 1/2 apology today. Not whole-hearted but decent for today's Republican Party.
Embarrassingly, I probably get 90% of my sports news from the Bulwark podcast. But the sports news is kind of good to know. Who couldn't use a healthy distraction.
I want this bullshit era to end.
I’m betting Spies got a “golden handshake” for being terminated, but conditioned upon issuing that statement.
Right now the latest performance audition for Trumpster's VP is not accepting the 2024 vote if he loses. We saw it over the weekend with Tim Scott and Doug Bergum. Next up, Hillbilly Vance and Little Marco.
Of course. If they didn't, than that means Trump lost. Trump can't stand a loser. So he can't possibly be a loser. Too bad all the Republican men have cut off their "you know what" In order to be Trump's slave girls. Do they have any idea how pathetic they look?
They've already been there. J.D. Vance has been the most willing to go there even when he's not prompted.
That is probably why Trump will select him.
Next time when any network has somebody on(like Scott,Bergum or Noem),be really prepared to follow up. Fact check with facts instantly.This can be done without seemingly being partisan or rude. The best at it was Tim Russert. As for Tim Scott, pull out the Tim reply: "Already, I've had enough". Then simply state that all swing states have had three recounts.And 60+ court cases found no evidence of fraud.And that includes the SCOTUS. Simple. Case closed.
Today's episode was nearly perfect. It started off with Tim baiting bill into running smack about the Nuggets (hate them too Bill, but damn, they sure are fun to watch), and the episode ended with Tim dropping an Alex P Keaton reference. In-between was, as always, a great discussion from the brilliant minds at The Bulwark. Keep up the good work!
Hey Tim, a note of caution on that Politico piece about protest funding. I think you should reread the piece to include the correction at the bottom of the piece. Because the entire premise of the story is debunked in the correction.
Jeez - thanks
It is quite the hefty correction:
“CORRECTION: An earlier version of this report misstated that The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation seeds the Tides Foundation’s work. It no longer has active grants to Tides. It also said POLITICO contacted Gates. POLITICO contacted an agency that has represented the Gates Foundation but did not reach out directly to Gates. It said IfNotNow was one of two of the main organizations behind the protests. IfNotNow is supporting protests, but students are leading them. And it misstated the year Rockefeller Brothers Fund donated to Tides and that the donations to Jewish Voice for Peace went through an intermediary. The donations to Tides took place prior to 2022, and the Fund directly contributed to Jewish Voice for Peace.”
Jeez, they should have just pulled the article.
But other than that mistake :)
I’m with Tim in thinking that Noem might not be quite ready for prime time and give another possibility for the KJU confusion. She and Cory Lewandowski went to a Halloween party, she was Eva Braun and he was KJU?
Or maybe she met Dennis Rodman and mistook him for Kim Jong Un
Also gosh darn it, I’m such a Bill Kristol Stan. It’s weird to Stan pundits but yeah, it’s just like a pina colada for the soul to hear such thoughtful, reasoned, reflective comments about the state of things. He reminds me to think the best of people, he’s very fair, it’s very centering and I appreciate him so much. 🙂