I agree with you Matthew, Migs, and OP Andy K. The massive amount of attention being given to this is not just Bill and Tim, and them sloughing it off as if it’s similar to the head-to-head Obama/clinton fight is wrong. The press didn’t take sides in that fight! So many press outlets are directly trying to take Biden down.
I agree with you Matthew, Migs, and OP Andy K. The massive amount of attention being given to this is not just Bill and Tim, and them sloughing it off as if it’s similar to the head-to-head Obama/clinton fight is wrong. The press didn’t take sides in that fight! So many press outlets are directly trying to take Biden down.
I also think that so many points Bill &Tim make as “of course this is fact” are debatable, at the least. I’m hopeful that this is the last “double-doubters” hate fest on the Bulwark and that someone who can challenge these “obvious truths” will be there (for my sanity). Questions and debate are ok, even at this late stage, but calling for him to get out or we definitely LOSE is irresponsible. IMHO
Yes, I support Biden and Kamala, and we get Kamala even if we stay this course. She is dynamite. Joe has never been a glib campaigner - I’ve seen him in person and he’s much better in the meet/greet stuff. He always had issues talking, stuttering, and gets little empathy, much less congratulations, for doing so well with this handicap. Like “The King’s Speech,” I wish we could highlight the bravery it takes to face that down.
So yeah, we ARE doing damage by stating this NOT as questions but as fact that Joe is not capable, that the past doesn’t matter (come on, don’t run on your record??), and that he has to cover every issue in every speech.
Oh most definitely. There are risks are everywhere. There is no comparison between this and HRC VS. OBAMA. NONE. those were actual primaries. This is some unknown delegates somewhere choosing for dems. Very very different. I also don’t think that bill and Tim that Obama and HRC were universally known. Other Kamala these governors are completely unknown.
I love Kamala. I would hope she could win. I just don’t trust our voters. Too racist and sexist.
I agree with you Matthew, Migs, and OP Andy K. The massive amount of attention being given to this is not just Bill and Tim, and them sloughing it off as if it’s similar to the head-to-head Obama/clinton fight is wrong. The press didn’t take sides in that fight! So many press outlets are directly trying to take Biden down.
I also think that so many points Bill &Tim make as “of course this is fact” are debatable, at the least. I’m hopeful that this is the last “double-doubters” hate fest on the Bulwark and that someone who can challenge these “obvious truths” will be there (for my sanity). Questions and debate are ok, even at this late stage, but calling for him to get out or we definitely LOSE is irresponsible. IMHO
Yes, I support Biden and Kamala, and we get Kamala even if we stay this course. She is dynamite. Joe has never been a glib campaigner - I’ve seen him in person and he’s much better in the meet/greet stuff. He always had issues talking, stuttering, and gets little empathy, much less congratulations, for doing so well with this handicap. Like “The King’s Speech,” I wish we could highlight the bravery it takes to face that down.
So yeah, we ARE doing damage by stating this NOT as questions but as fact that Joe is not capable, that the past doesn’t matter (come on, don’t run on your record??), and that he has to cover every issue in every speech.
Oh most definitely. There are risks are everywhere. There is no comparison between this and HRC VS. OBAMA. NONE. those were actual primaries. This is some unknown delegates somewhere choosing for dems. Very very different. I also don’t think that bill and Tim that Obama and HRC were universally known. Other Kamala these governors are completely unknown.
I love Kamala. I would hope she could win. I just don’t trust our voters. Too racist and sexist.