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Angie's avatar

Oh man, is this another I am going to have to skip....sigh

I just can't take any more of this....🙁...

Not a fan of Kamala, but, as I have no choice either way, guess it doesn't matter..adn I was pretty sure most swing ( especially right leaning ones) voters don't like her either, I know the center rights over at the Dispatch don't at all

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Bruce Lawrence's avatar

I also have not been a fan of Kamala Harris. But this podcast from the NY Times explains some of what happened to get Kamala into her current difficulties. One big problem was that the anti-police ferment in the wake of George Floyd's death threw her candidacy up in the air because she is, basically, a law-and-order type, but she had to de-emphasize that in 2020, and she never came up with anything to replace it with. I haven't finished it yet, but I'm already feeling less negative about her prospects as a candidate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyvaxlKuOuE&list=PLdMrbgYfVl-szepgVpArP0obwYgbKdfvx&index=3&t=202s

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Angie's avatar

Yeah, I read about that somewhere else, can't remember where

I am even moreso just remembering how she acted during her run for president, that didn't impress me...

Who knows, like I said not like there is anything I can do to choose if they decide to go forward...

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DBinSF's avatar

misogynoir

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Angie's avatar

No, ,these are decent people, they just don't care for her manner, plus one of them used to work for her and he doesn't have a good opinion either, which he has shared.

I don't like her and it has nothing to do with being a woman of color...and I won't vote for any woman just because she is woman

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DBinSF's avatar

why don’t you like Kamala? what is it about her “manner” that these decent people don’t like?

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Angie's avatar

Apparently, how she got there is an issue Her affair with an important pol who mentored her...she also has mistreated staff, they find her personal manner offputting etc, I don't know every reason.

I think as a person she is....ok...I dont' think she would make a good president, and I am not sure she has all the skills neede.d, and I just get a bad vibe from here when I think about her being president, now there are plenty of other women, even ones of color I like a lot more...

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Jess's avatar

Interesting point of view that you have a bad vibe about VP Kamala being President. I suspect many voters also have. You think she is ok as a person and not sure she has the skills to be President…as the sitting VP? It seems to be such a conundrum why voters don’t like her. I recall Nikki Haley saying that VP Kamala would be a disaster but never explained why. There never seems to be a solid reason cited why she is perceived to be disliked and unqualified.

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Still Trying's avatar

Most of those objections are pieces of information that contribute to a picture of her abilities, but the one about her relationship with Willie Brown makes me see red.

Yes, their relationship went a step further, but Brown has mentored many California politicians, including Gavin Newsom. You don't hear anyone give that as a reason not to support Newsom or any other candidate, but it's the one all the Trump-loving misogynists on twitter pop off with every time Harris is the subject of a post. If they are citing that as a reason, I'm inclined to distrust their other evaluations, too.

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Angie's avatar

I don't know any Trump-loving mysogynists, so, I don't know what they think.

I have read many times about her and Willie, it seems to be common knowledge it was more than being mentored, they had an affair apparently...i actually don't hold that against her, though I find it a bad example to women, and they should stop doing that, though it works more than it doesn't...

Some times some people just rub me the wrong way without a clear idea why they bother me, though I eventually figure it out most of the time, so I am sure other people have the same experience.

Now , I haven't liked Trump since the 80's , he made my skin crawl even then, and I get that tightening in my neck...that happens with me with some people, and I generally trust it.

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Still Trying's avatar

To be clear, I totally get the thing about her manner (and even her nervous laugh) although I think she's doing better lately. And I certainly don't recommend having affairs with mentors; it's unprofessional at best, but it happened a long time ago and hardly seems a reason not to vote for someone.

It's hard to picture it having an effect on a male candidate's campaign 30 years later, unless there was abuse or it was the cause of a divorce or something really harmful.

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Angie's avatar

I think it depends, though I am sure it happens, it is rare for a man to use a woman to get ahead...

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