I don't know. I think it is healthy because we all saw it was bad and we can admit we aren't voting for a performer, we're voting for policy. Maybe it will at least get a few people to understand the President doesn't need to sing and dance. I think there would be a net gain of voters if we are clear we have some concerns and aren't blin…
I don't know. I think it is healthy because we all saw it was bad and we can admit we aren't voting for a performer, we're voting for policy. Maybe it will at least get a few people to understand the President doesn't need to sing and dance. I think there would be a net gain of voters if we are clear we have some concerns and aren't blindly supporting Biden. Otherwise we just look like a cult like the other side, and I feel that's a way to get others to sit out.
I don’t think it’s bad for partisan. We are going to vote for anyone. I think it’s bad for a huge swath of voters who don’t pay attention. It’s just “dems in disarray”
I can see it both ways, so I'm not solid on it helping or hurting. I think addressing the elephant in the room is relevant but too much will eventually hurt. I mainly think how the discussions are had are important. The first days out of the debate, I thought the discussions here were over the top and reactionary. Now, the discussions are more productive even if I disagree. I do look forward to Tim talking to someone on the keep Biden side of things.
To an extent I agree but I’ll posit this: I don’t think there is anything Biden could do or could have done (other than not have a shit debate) to take these attacks. He does an unscripted event that goes well. Why not 3 more. “Oh he stumbled on this question or that question.” He literally has been doing things but they aren’t “enough” for the media. He doesn’t town hall “well why won’t he sit down with the times?” They will keep raising the bar.
I agree with most of that. I think right now, it's not bad. But within 2 weeks this will be settled one way or the other. And after it's clear if Biden stays or goes, then it would be damaging.
Agree with the conclusion but let me posit the following.
I like bill scher who is a good dem. On today’s podcast he thinks Biden has Parkinson’s because one of his doctors is a specialist neurological disorders. Like an hour ago that doctor released a statement on all his findings and that Biden doesn’t have Parkinson’s. His response “well did you do a test yesterday.” Like they fall for something the right wing media started, ask for evidence then get it and say not enough I need more. He could have the doctor do a press conference and people will say get a different independent doctor (which doesn’t exist) is needed other than this national specialist. That’s just acting like a Republican base voter. There is nothing Biden can do to dissuade these media attacks in my mind right now. Only time will help.
I don't know. I think it is healthy because we all saw it was bad and we can admit we aren't voting for a performer, we're voting for policy. Maybe it will at least get a few people to understand the President doesn't need to sing and dance. I think there would be a net gain of voters if we are clear we have some concerns and aren't blindly supporting Biden. Otherwise we just look like a cult like the other side, and I feel that's a way to get others to sit out.
I don’t think it’s bad for partisan. We are going to vote for anyone. I think it’s bad for a huge swath of voters who don’t pay attention. It’s just “dems in disarray”
I can see it both ways, so I'm not solid on it helping or hurting. I think addressing the elephant in the room is relevant but too much will eventually hurt. I mainly think how the discussions are had are important. The first days out of the debate, I thought the discussions here were over the top and reactionary. Now, the discussions are more productive even if I disagree. I do look forward to Tim talking to someone on the keep Biden side of things.
To an extent I agree but I’ll posit this: I don’t think there is anything Biden could do or could have done (other than not have a shit debate) to take these attacks. He does an unscripted event that goes well. Why not 3 more. “Oh he stumbled on this question or that question.” He literally has been doing things but they aren’t “enough” for the media. He doesn’t town hall “well why won’t he sit down with the times?” They will keep raising the bar.
Could be wrong.
I agree with most of that. I think right now, it's not bad. But within 2 weeks this will be settled one way or the other. And after it's clear if Biden stays or goes, then it would be damaging.
Agree with the conclusion but let me posit the following.
I like bill scher who is a good dem. On today’s podcast he thinks Biden has Parkinson’s because one of his doctors is a specialist neurological disorders. Like an hour ago that doctor released a statement on all his findings and that Biden doesn’t have Parkinson’s. His response “well did you do a test yesterday.” Like they fall for something the right wing media started, ask for evidence then get it and say not enough I need more. He could have the doctor do a press conference and people will say get a different independent doctor (which doesn’t exist) is needed other than this national specialist. That’s just acting like a Republican base voter. There is nothing Biden can do to dissuade these media attacks in my mind right now. Only time will help.
Ah. Yeah. I see what you mean. I think the media is already getting bored with this drama, so I expect this to go just to the fringes soon.