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Tim--on your coda in this show: I heard that and I was OK with it and understood. But thanks for the respect to the audience. As for the post-Trump 2025 we're hoping for, what I am hoping for from the Bulwark, in addition to continued focus on Maga-ism, is to support this community that has been united around defeating *that* to being able to return to true civility in our politics. I like to think that a lot of us here have taken the lesson of what comes from hurling "Communist", "Socialist", "Fascist", "death panels", "nannie state", "war monger", "baby killer", etc epithets at each other has brought us.

There are thoughtful and intelligent people at the Bulwark, listening/reading the Bulwark, and contributing to the Bulwark. Can we do that when talking about government spending?

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