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The economy was doing better, unemployment low, wages were up, the stock market was up, but they were told a lie. Now Trump will enjoy the economy Biden left and claim he did it. Sure groceries were higher but God, people sold their souls for a carton of eggs.

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If we deport all the poultry workers the price of eggs will not go down…

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That is a fact. I cant believe that people seem to think that prices somehow will come down when the magician is president. I am sure they will find out and there will be no reduction in prices. They seem to forget that they also are now earning a higher wage. That will make prices go up and so will the tariffs waiting to be omplemented. Oh and they seem to forget all the free money. I dont think people send the checks back.

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Don't forget the food shortages after the mass deportation. Who is going to work in the slaughter houses, chicken farms, dairy farms and who is going to pick all the vegetables and fruits? And, what about all the federal employees who are about to lose their jobs? It's fixing to get real up in here! I hope MAGA nation is ready for it.

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From my sister in Connecticut.

A beautiful read for you guys: my niece’s friend’s mama is a precious pastor in Asheville, NC. She wrote this today:

for you, if today your heart is broken

if today your heart is broken for this country, you are not alone. if you could only open one eye half-way to the breaking of this next day—you are not alone if you are curled fetal in your soul. you are not alone if you are heart-broken for everyone including the crows and the dogs and all the children in the red, white, and blue.

if today you are afraid for this country, for democracy, for what is to come, you are not alone. you are not alone if you fear for our brown skin, our daughters, our queers, our selves.  they/them, you and me, we are not alone.

if today, even more than yesterday, you hurt for the water and the forest, you are not alone. if you grieve today a world that will not be, you are not alone.

and you are not alone if you are holding hot coals of anger for disinformation and the seeds of our division, which can be traced back generations at least to when race became a thing, a construct we lived. we were meant for better - the paleos didn’t make war on each other. if your coals burn for every bomb dropped and each life disregarded (dead children), you are not alone if you are shaking your fist at the patriarchy, the unchecked egos, at a world sacrificed to the bottom line, at whatever god (or none) collects your prayers.

you are not alone if you are so sorry we didn’t listen inside us better and walk deeper into our brokenness and toward one another. you are not alone if you are sorry we haven’t given more for each other and for the future we want for every single child. you are not alone if you are sorry this morning to the whole wide world.

you are not alone if this is not the road you expected or wanted or chose. you are not alone if you don’t want to travel this road, if you don’t want this road for your colleagues or friends or the people that voted it into being. you are not alone if you wanted so much more for your country—more compassion and solidarity. more trees and cleaner water.

if you woke this morning with a broken heart, you are not alone because i am still here with one eye open. and i am not alone because you are next door. later we will be together at the gas station and grocery store and today my son will sit on a school bus next to a kid whose parents didn’t vote like me. those boys will not know what i know, so they will be free to laugh into the moment of their shared humanity which is what i vow to remember this day and every day to come.

if your heart is broken this morning, pray don’t let it harden. we are not alone—we can vow to stay soft, to break even more because breaking can take us to our knees, and sometimes that is a prayer and somedays that is all we have to help us with the truest truth that the enemy is also a construct. we will never distain our brothers and sisters into another way being. with broken hearts, we are still here, and we must still show up for all of us.

November 6, 2024

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Gracias, Beth! You are poetic and caring

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Beth - I live in Asheville and want to go to that house of worship/church/synagogue. could you tell me the name of the place or pastor ? thanks

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the single most important thing to me is to understand why so many dems stayed home compared to 2020, which made all the crucial difference....

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Because we are a tribe of mostly white primates.

And we want to be led by a strongman, not a black woman.

Sarah's focus groups about the "reasons" are garbage. They are stories people tell themselves to sleep better.

The sooner we admit this, the sooner we begin to work on a cure.

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Racism & Misogyny are powerful forces.

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I think it's worth examining whether some stay homers were OK with Harris losing.

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i have to assume some were, but that's why i would really like to know more.

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fwiw, when i was 15, in 1968, i tried to convince my liberal parents not to vote for humphrey due to his complicity in vietnam.

and my parents, being older and wiser, said "what are you, nuts? put nixon in the white house?"

but i at least have the excuse of having been 15.

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Welp, some of them actually voted for Trump, or Jill Stein, or some other write-in.

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some, but not many: it's not like trump's number of votes is up, and it's not like stein got a huge number of votes.

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Candidate. In a word.

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if the word you mean is the candidate was a woman and we now have an n=2 that the voting public would literally have a rapist over a woman, then i'm inclined to agree.

if you think the problem was kamala herself, i disagree.

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Okay people I have to quit because I am getting darker and darker. But for the love of God will people quit acting like this is going to be just another administration. It is done folks it is over, we failed to save our republic. He wont even bother with the Orban model, but just go straight to the Putin model with religion.

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Sadly I am not optimistic either. I truly think these are the end days of the republic.

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But they are incompetent and clumsy and a lot of them don’t like each other. Look at all of the infighting during the past four years.

If Trumps health is in decline and he croaks, I would imagine there would be a huge power struggle between all of his idiots because they would no longer have Trump as the only thing that keeps them united.

Not only that, they will lose his base. The yee-haw people that go to his rallies don’t want anyone else but Trump. I truly believe he is an anomaly.

I think this will need psychological warfare. These are not strong men. Just get someone to infiltrate and pull a Yojimbo and turn them against each other. If there is a time to use AI, maybe this is the time. Convince Trump that someone in his cabinet is conspiring against him…start rumors…use Truth Social against him.

We can trip these unstable men…

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Pretty sure Stephen Miller has planned for this. He seems to be the one in control. He is even more ruthless than t***p and he is smart and he has a very specific agenda. White men in control, white women controlled breeders and people of color enslaved or dead.

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Miller is a wimp. One smack in the face and he’d be down. Lol.

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He is smarter than the average t***pkin. And he is a man on a mission with intense hatred of all non white people. Don't underestimate him. Josef Goebles didn't look like much either.

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It really isn't optimism or pessimism it simply is.

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But the reality is we DON'T know what the consequences will be. We don't know even what "He" will actually do because he is inconsistent and incoherent. Don't look at anything he does--- watch to see what those around him are doing and figure out how to fight them.

To resist what MAY come we have to focus on what we KNOW not what we fear. First, we have to focus NOW on the election of 2026 because that will be our next chance. Second, between now and 2026 we have to focus on state and local elections and rebuilding a coalition from the bottom up. Resistance is necessary but mere defiance will not do. Perhaps measured nonviolent civil disobedience will have to explored.

And STOP using most of the antisocial media platforms.

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The 2026 election will be a preordained celebration of t***p. We have lost our republic.

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This election has laid bare what has always been true: Americans have limited understanding not simply of American government and polity but more importantly, of what constitutes community. It's a culture of individualism, where a vision of the whole is eclipsed by one's personal situation. I get it that people have struggled with inflation. But the tangled issues behind the problem require a modicum of understanding of economics and willingness to think through the issues.

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If you get Netflix what you say is borne out in "Join, or Die" a documentary about Robert Putnam and his book "Bowling Alone" and his research into the decline of civil society. (Forgive if you know about or have seen already. I just discovered it recently--- I am often behind the times! But it was quite eye opening and perhaps many of us have been asking the wrong questions?

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Congress is going to do whatever Project 2025 wants, Trump be damned. Trump was and is a stalking horse for the truly nefarious string-pullers behind him. They may not reveal themselves, ever, but Trump doesn’t matter anymore, probably never did aside from his role as a distraction and shield for everything happening clandestinely. Having served his purpose, he will be put out to pasture (or golf course, as it were).

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They have already stuck him in dump trucks and more stopped the loser rallies.

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We do know: Leonard Leo and his crew.

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For the life of me, I can’t fathom how anyone could think the filibuster is going to survive and be an impediment to anything. If it makes it into the rules package at all in January, it’ll be excised the second after Democrats use it the first time.

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Marco Rubio: "Senate is gonna give great deference to a president that just won a stunning... Electoral College landslide" ???

Biden 2020: 303 electoral votes. Trump 2024: 292 so far, not enough remaining to be that far above Biden's total. How much deference did Republicans in the Senate give Biden? Is it possible Rubio is gaslighting even before Trump is sworn in?

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You expected otherwise?

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Hey, Shrub acted like he won a mandate in 2004, even though he would have lost the White House if he had lost Ohio (and he had 9/11 to thank for even being politically viable). He promptly decided his “mandate” entitled him to end Social Security, and we all know how that went.

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If it is really the economy, stupid, it should not take too long for buyer's remorse to overtake the T. Rump voters as the long predicted recession takes hold in the new administration. We shall see.

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Don't forget the global tariffs trade war!

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The tariffs will never happen.

The point of them is not the actual tariff. The point of them is that the President can level tariffs unilaterally -- he doesn't need congress. Therefore Trump can punish any businessmen who don't get on board.

See Bezos' tweet today. They will all fall in line.

And guess what happens to political donations when you control the purse strings?

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That's a part of it, but I wouldn't be so sure that they're not going to happen. Trump *really* likes tariffs, like genuinely. It's not just a clever ploy.

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I think we have to split the discussion: tariffs on US. Companies is for grift but tariffs on Chinese companies is consistent with Trump's attitude since the late '80s.

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You keep thinking that, just like a lot of Trump voters think that. Why would he behave differently than he did in his first term, especially as his 3rd grade economic brain believes tariffs are good policy. The fact that so many of you Americans fell for the fallacy of Trump being some brilliant financial mind would be hilarious if the consequences weren't so dangerous.

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Matt, do you believe that if Bezos bends the knee, praises Trump via Twitter Kin Jong-Un style, and stops donating to Democratic causes and candidates, that Trump will still hit Amazon's profits with tariffs?

Sure, there will some tariffs for holdouts.

But the point of the tariffs is to give carve outs to those who curry favor.

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You have a large misunderstanding of Trump's thinking on Tariffs. You also forget that Trump has no loyalty at all, except for his most fervant followers, not late knee benders - and only then until they are of no more use to him. Aside from that you also have a misunderstanding of how tariffs work, but it seems you aren't the only American in that boat.

The only proft hit that American companies will take from tariffs is from lost sales. Companies don't tank their profits when hit by tariffs, they pass the entirety of the tariff on to the consumer. Bezos won't pay one cent in tariffs, neither will any other company. China will not pay a cent, Europe will not pay a cent, Australia will not pay a cent - the cost will be born by Americans every time they shop. That's how tariffs work.

Put a 20% tariff on steel, everything that steel gets used for gets a price increase equal to what the steel tariff cost that company. Put the same tariff on fruit, it all goes up by 20%. Like your international beer? If that gets a 20% tariff, YOU pay 20% more for that beer. And you know the best part for American consumers? Just like all price rises, when a new administration comes in and dumps the tariffs, the prices won't go back down by 20% because they never do. There might be a small decrease in price, but nowhere near the 20% decrease the tariff removal would warrant. Companies don't surrender profits unless they are forced to, and that equals price control which in America is a third rail lol.

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I spend that last 5 months reading Project 2025 in a Democrats Abroad book club. Living in the EU, I know that the largest number of American Expats are in Canada. In 2016 there was a wave of Americans who sent their children to university in Canada to make it easier for them to integrate into Canadian life. I read today that there is a backlog of people applying to update their passports and there are a lot of searches about moving to Canada on Google.

I did not choose this, and while in the EU now, I am not looking forward to returning to the US for Christmas as I celebrate with my family, who misses me. We will try to create a Merry Christmas for the Gen-Zers in our family including one who will be returning from Europe with me. We want them to remain hopeful so they can be the change they want to see in the world. Right now, I feel guilty that our planet has been turned over to climate deniers and more and more will die because of it.

I am expecting JD Vance, another women hating, homophobic racist will be the most inexperienced president in the White House. The people who are expecting to grab power from this, namely the Confederacy, have finally defeated Lincoln in this election. Prof. Ruth Ben-Ghiat has a book Strongmen that talks about autocrats and what eventually leads to their demise. Sometimes it is just old age.

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With respect to the House, the article assumes that people actually blame the Republicans for its complete dysfunction (or are even aware of it) rather than on Biden. Particularly since Biden has zero communication skills at this point so everything was essentially a one-sided argument.

Also, Schumer has got to go, like now. You had the House with ridiculous hearings but ones that moved public opinion while the Senate did nothing. I cannot think of one Senate hearing in the past four years that I saw or even heard about. They should have been going after Trump and his acolytes from day one. Now, anything good Biden did will either be reversed or Trump will take credit for it.

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You guys are acting like the courts and congress will mater. Trump campaigned as an imperial president and I suspect he plans to govern as one.

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The only silver lining is that Trump is fundamentally lazy. He will certainly indulge his anger and resentments, and will want to keep his crush Vladimir happy, but he was never a detail person, and will likely let his minions, like Stephen Miller, Rick Grenell, and Russell Vought, and his Congressional sycophants such as Mike Johnson do most of the work of governing. Trump will of course take credit for whatever seems to be going well, and blame Biden and Harris for anything that goes wrong.

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Isn’t that worse? This time the people with passionately awful worldviews and the energy to do the work attached themselves to the guy. While Trump tweets they’ll do their worst and be effective.

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It could be worse, but his minions may not be politically savvy and could cause Trump major embarrassment as they try to impose their religious extremism and reactionary political views on the rest of us. As young women die and OB/GYNs flee the red states, and construction companies and farmers lose their employees, some Trump voters may have buyers' remorse.

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DID Americans see "chaos, dysfunction, and impotence in the House"? The results of this election force me to think that Americans as a majority pay no attention to objective reporting. They suck up their news, if at all, through filters with an agenda. Propaganda. And cannot pay more than fleeting attention to anything on their way to buy another _____. Heaven help us.

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You mean congress will do whatever he wants or else. He is not going to have any patience with congress this time. If they don't agree he will simply do it anyway.

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I tend to disagree: voters saw the dysfunction in the House, and decided to elect an autocrat who will find ways of governing with only nominal reference to the existing laws and Constitution. Cf. Weimar 1933.

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From democracy to kleptocracy. From taunts to truisms. From base lies to acceptable “alternative facts.” The Great Beast White Christian America awakes.

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