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David Jolly: DeSantis Has the Hottest Hand in Politics Right Now
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David Jolly: DeSantis Has the Hottest Hand in Politics Right Now

Of course Trump's grift is driving him to run again — and DeSantis is the only one who's got a shot. Plus, the political class gets a pass on crime, and the millions of voters who don't identify as pro-choice, but are pro-Roe. David Jolly joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.

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