But that is the point…it isn’t messaging. The message is just an excuse because then they don’t have to make the real hard choices that lie in front of them. And they are really really hard.
I don’t know what the answer is but the problem is definitely not messaging. It’s (1) the people that need to hear the message never ever hear it…how…
But that is the point…it isn’t messaging. The message is just an excuse because then they don’t have to make the real hard choices that lie in front of them. And they are really really hard.
I don’t know what the answer is but the problem is definitely not messaging. It’s (1) the people that need to hear the message never ever hear it…how do you change that?!?! (2) you probably have to make real hard/difficult choices on the actual platform that really alienate portions of your base. They might be even antithetical to your and my values. (3) they have to find enemies that they attack and vilify constantly. And (4) they cannot support or defend the institution
Good points, but if dems cannot sell democracy, women's rights, civil rights, voting rights, the best economy in the world and the rule of law, then it may not be the dem problem, but a problem of American stupidity of a large segment of the population. maga and trump are selfish fools while dems are compassionate realists, probably to a fault. The loudest voice often carries the day, no mater how foolish, idiotic, or unreal. No simple way to address a lack of education, ignorance of history, or fear of the deep state. A cult believes its leader at all costs. Jim Jones knew that and so does the monstrosity trump... Maybe the fever just has to break on its own before maga and the apathetic begin to recover.
Honestly I don’t know. This election results surprised me on 2 fronts: (1) Trump winning the popular vote. I thought Trump was a 50/50 chance of winning the ec but never thought he could win the popular vote. (2) losing Congress. The republicans ran Congress like a complete and utter shitshow. They were not only disastrous from a legislative perspective but also from a media perspective. They were a complete clown show…and yet they won again.
No one cares about democracy. That has been clear for a while. However, I did think people would care that our economy is the gem of the world and yet we said “fuck it. Give me the idiot.”
I think women’s rights actively hurts dems. I want to be clear I don’t believe this. I don’t want to believe that other people believe this but they do. Men are pissed (I’m a man and I could give a shit) but they are pissed. Women…I got to be honest with you I’m mad a women for what happened to Hillary and Harris. I don’t get it. If Dems/republicans ran a Hispanic, Hispanic’s would come out in droves to vote for the candidate. Somehow women voted more for Biden than they did for Harris/clinton. WTF.
Rule of law. I think people don’t believe this. They think the rich get off and the poor go to jail. They aren’t wrong.
So I think people are stupid. I do t know what to do
No argument there. I was more stunned and disappointed than surprised trump won. A majority of white women voted for the sexual assaulter and thief in waiting. That's mind numbing.. Many people have the attention span of a tic yok video and the historical references of the of no more than 2 months. It has become a society that craves celebrity over substance and clownishness over competence. I am not a sociologist or rocket scientist but facts are no longer facts, and the truth is whatever the cult leader mumbles at the time. How about that Hannibal Lecter guy...
Yes, the sideshow has already started and repubs backed out of a budget deal because musk screams nonsense while eating hallucinogens. I can't do a damn thing about stupid. But I am ready for it since I do not have any maga cult illusions that trump is my savior. Those who do suffer most will be maga, and frank;y, Scarlet, they deserve it. A little metaphorical slap in the face might be the only answer. I am done trying to make sense of it.
I got to be jones though: I’m not sure what is worse (1) Trump does incompetent and evil shit and the people like it or (2) Trump does incompetent and evil shit and they don’t notice. I kind of think number (2). (1) we could respond too but (2) wtf do you do then?
One thing you mentioned is a certainty, he will do incompetent and evil shit. The reaction is the unknown. But if the cost of eggs spike, he is in for a world of hurt from his nut job base...
HoI’m e so but betting on (1) egg prices seems idiotic but that’s where we are and (2) hope it does because if it doesn’t then I have no idea what to say/do.
All I can do is take a deep breath and hope the crazies fight each other and don't have time to do much harm. I will keep the passport nearby though... I can take only so much crazy.
But that is the point…it isn’t messaging. The message is just an excuse because then they don’t have to make the real hard choices that lie in front of them. And they are really really hard.
I don’t know what the answer is but the problem is definitely not messaging. It’s (1) the people that need to hear the message never ever hear it…how do you change that?!?! (2) you probably have to make real hard/difficult choices on the actual platform that really alienate portions of your base. They might be even antithetical to your and my values. (3) they have to find enemies that they attack and vilify constantly. And (4) they cannot support or defend the institution
Good points, but if dems cannot sell democracy, women's rights, civil rights, voting rights, the best economy in the world and the rule of law, then it may not be the dem problem, but a problem of American stupidity of a large segment of the population. maga and trump are selfish fools while dems are compassionate realists, probably to a fault. The loudest voice often carries the day, no mater how foolish, idiotic, or unreal. No simple way to address a lack of education, ignorance of history, or fear of the deep state. A cult believes its leader at all costs. Jim Jones knew that and so does the monstrosity trump... Maybe the fever just has to break on its own before maga and the apathetic begin to recover.
Honestly I don’t know. This election results surprised me on 2 fronts: (1) Trump winning the popular vote. I thought Trump was a 50/50 chance of winning the ec but never thought he could win the popular vote. (2) losing Congress. The republicans ran Congress like a complete and utter shitshow. They were not only disastrous from a legislative perspective but also from a media perspective. They were a complete clown show…and yet they won again.
No one cares about democracy. That has been clear for a while. However, I did think people would care that our economy is the gem of the world and yet we said “fuck it. Give me the idiot.”
I think women’s rights actively hurts dems. I want to be clear I don’t believe this. I don’t want to believe that other people believe this but they do. Men are pissed (I’m a man and I could give a shit) but they are pissed. Women…I got to be honest with you I’m mad a women for what happened to Hillary and Harris. I don’t get it. If Dems/republicans ran a Hispanic, Hispanic’s would come out in droves to vote for the candidate. Somehow women voted more for Biden than they did for Harris/clinton. WTF.
Rule of law. I think people don’t believe this. They think the rich get off and the poor go to jail. They aren’t wrong.
So I think people are stupid. I do t know what to do
No argument there. I was more stunned and disappointed than surprised trump won. A majority of white women voted for the sexual assaulter and thief in waiting. That's mind numbing.. Many people have the attention span of a tic yok video and the historical references of the of no more than 2 months. It has become a society that craves celebrity over substance and clownishness over competence. I am not a sociologist or rocket scientist but facts are no longer facts, and the truth is whatever the cult leader mumbles at the time. How about that Hannibal Lecter guy...
Yes, the sideshow has already started and repubs backed out of a budget deal because musk screams nonsense while eating hallucinogens. I can't do a damn thing about stupid. But I am ready for it since I do not have any maga cult illusions that trump is my savior. Those who do suffer most will be maga, and frank;y, Scarlet, they deserve it. A little metaphorical slap in the face might be the only answer. I am done trying to make sense of it.
Yep. Let them touch that hot stove.
I got to be jones though: I’m not sure what is worse (1) Trump does incompetent and evil shit and the people like it or (2) Trump does incompetent and evil shit and they don’t notice. I kind of think number (2). (1) we could respond too but (2) wtf do you do then?
One thing you mentioned is a certainty, he will do incompetent and evil shit. The reaction is the unknown. But if the cost of eggs spike, he is in for a world of hurt from his nut job base...
HoI’m e so but betting on (1) egg prices seems idiotic but that’s where we are and (2) hope it does because if it doesn’t then I have no idea what to say/do.
All I can do is take a deep breath and hope the crazies fight each other and don't have time to do much harm. I will keep the passport nearby though... I can take only so much crazy.