We have a saying in Kentucky, the Confederates finally captured Louisville...20 years after the war and put up a Robert E Lee Statue in 1885 to signify the establishment of Jim Crow. It never stopped
We have a saying in Kentucky, the Confederates finally captured Louisville...20 years after the war and put up a Robert E Lee Statue in 1885 to signify the establishment of Jim Crow. It never stopped
Was born and raised in Lebanon, Marion County, dead in the middle of the state.
In Ryder Cemetery on the east end of town (land deeded by will for its use from a private individual in 1863) is a monument to Capt. Andrew Offutt, a Union Officer in the 5th Kentucky Cavalry, placed in 1921. Its inscription is described as having the second strongest pro-Union sentiment of any such union monument in the state.
Lebanon was a railroad town with Union troops garrisoned at the local railroad depot at times and was the scene of 3 battles and other skirmishes during the war. Confederate Gen. John Hunt Morgan of Morgan's Raiders led the ultimately unsuccessful month-long diversionary action known as Morgan's Raid in 1863 from Tenn through W VA, IN, KY and OH, with a notable battle in and around Lebanon along the way.
There is a statue of Morgan at a major intersection on the northern route out of town near an historic home that he commandeered as his headquarters while in the area. Not sure when it was put there... sometime after I moved away after graduating high school. Maybe the 80s. Not sure who paid for it either. Not even sure if it's still there, since I haven't been home in some years now, but I'm pretty sure it is. Morgan was much revered by many in the area as I recall during my time growing up there.
So, where I came from in Ky was a mixed bag of sentiment, loyalty and admiration vis a vie the North and South and the Civil War. As it is in much of the state yet, I believe. But in small rural towns in rural counties such as mine, the tilt was a bit more southerly than northerly and probably will remain so for far too much longer into the future.
What part of Ky are you in, if you don't mind my asking? Just generally. You need not get specific if you don't want to. Or say at all. No harm, no foul either way.
I'm in Covington, I lived in Maysville for awhile as well. Northern Kentucky from east to west was very pro Union. I believe proximity to the Ohio river gave it more of an economic and cultural tie with the Midwest than South.. per say.
I'm sure you're right about the Midwestern cultural and economic ties. Where I'm from, there is much more cultural identification with the South. Or there was when I lived there 50 years ago and it seemed not to change at all over the years, though like I said I haven't been home in a while.
Interestingly, although I've lived in the Lower Peninsula of Michigan not too far from Flint for more than half a century now, I still occasionally get people asking me "Where are you from?" when I speak to them for the first time. When I first moved here, those were almost always the first words out of anyone's mouth the first time we met, and I got kind of tired of explaining where Lebanon was, since just saying "Kentucky" never seemed to satisfy them.
I speak a lot more Midwestern than Bluegrass now, but some things you never loose completely, I guess.
What made me think of that was you saying you're in Covington. My best friend's son moved down to Covington from here a few years ago for a job opportunity. Some time ago while catching up on things with my friend on the phone, I asked him how his boy was doing?
"Fine", he replied. "Except he's starting to sound more like you than you do."
We have a saying in Kentucky, the Confederates finally captured Louisville...20 years after the war and put up a Robert E Lee Statue in 1885 to signify the establishment of Jim Crow. It never stopped
Was born and raised in Lebanon, Marion County, dead in the middle of the state.
In Ryder Cemetery on the east end of town (land deeded by will for its use from a private individual in 1863) is a monument to Capt. Andrew Offutt, a Union Officer in the 5th Kentucky Cavalry, placed in 1921. Its inscription is described as having the second strongest pro-Union sentiment of any such union monument in the state.
Lebanon was a railroad town with Union troops garrisoned at the local railroad depot at times and was the scene of 3 battles and other skirmishes during the war. Confederate Gen. John Hunt Morgan of Morgan's Raiders led the ultimately unsuccessful month-long diversionary action known as Morgan's Raid in 1863 from Tenn through W VA, IN, KY and OH, with a notable battle in and around Lebanon along the way.
There is a statue of Morgan at a major intersection on the northern route out of town near an historic home that he commandeered as his headquarters while in the area. Not sure when it was put there... sometime after I moved away after graduating high school. Maybe the 80s. Not sure who paid for it either. Not even sure if it's still there, since I haven't been home in some years now, but I'm pretty sure it is. Morgan was much revered by many in the area as I recall during my time growing up there.
So, where I came from in Ky was a mixed bag of sentiment, loyalty and admiration vis a vie the North and South and the Civil War. As it is in much of the state yet, I believe. But in small rural towns in rural counties such as mine, the tilt was a bit more southerly than northerly and probably will remain so for far too much longer into the future.
What part of Ky are you in, if you don't mind my asking? Just generally. You need not get specific if you don't want to. Or say at all. No harm, no foul either way.
I'm in Covington, I lived in Maysville for awhile as well. Northern Kentucky from east to west was very pro Union. I believe proximity to the Ohio river gave it more of an economic and cultural tie with the Midwest than South.. per say.
I'm sure you're right about the Midwestern cultural and economic ties. Where I'm from, there is much more cultural identification with the South. Or there was when I lived there 50 years ago and it seemed not to change at all over the years, though like I said I haven't been home in a while.
Interestingly, although I've lived in the Lower Peninsula of Michigan not too far from Flint for more than half a century now, I still occasionally get people asking me "Where are you from?" when I speak to them for the first time. When I first moved here, those were almost always the first words out of anyone's mouth the first time we met, and I got kind of tired of explaining where Lebanon was, since just saying "Kentucky" never seemed to satisfy them.
I speak a lot more Midwestern than Bluegrass now, but some things you never loose completely, I guess.
What made me think of that was you saying you're in Covington. My best friend's son moved down to Covington from here a few years ago for a job opportunity. Some time ago while catching up on things with my friend on the phone, I asked him how his boy was doing?
"Fine", he replied. "Except he's starting to sound more like you than you do."