did we not learn anything from this past election? immigration is a stinker of an issue - people (even Democrat voters) want deportations of anyone here undocumented. it's a loser of an issue and anyone seen fighting harder for people here undocumented over legal citizens is ripe to become a target in the midterms. let it go. winners make policy - losers go home with their tails between their legs.
It would be nice if Democratic leadership could advance beyond being 2 steps behind. The mass deportations, while terrible, are but a prelude to the arrest, disappearance, and internment of dissidents (& other undesirables). Everyone knows, it's written down, and it's been proclaimed by Trump himself for well over a year. So if our leadership is "getting off the mat to protect our [immigrant] communities" it's already too little too late. WAKE UP. Erodgan, Putin, et al. aren't advising this administration for the delectation of NYT both-siders; they're rapidly installing literal fascism.
Well, it’s about time! The Trump/Musk Billionaire Boyz, and MAGA, not only want a return to racism … but they want to force the country to join them. The Dixiecrats wholly supported segregation, but balked at demanding the rest of the country to comply.
As sad as these deportations are, a huge segment of the US population want this to some degree. This is not the topic that is going to win over enough voters.
I keep saying this, but if dems in blue cities/states really want to push back against Trump's revoking of federal funding as a weapon then they should cut off gas/electricity/water to ICE buildings in their cities/states. THAT is a huge point of leverage that they have over the feds. Just because the blue city/states might have to house a federal ICE facility doesn't mean they have to service them with water/electricity/gas. Send the city inspector(s) out and shut off the pipes to federal ICE facilities as a way to get the Trump admin to start compromising. Let's see ICE organize mass deportations when they can't turn on their office computers or flush their toilets.
Y’know those signs in many public places about maximum capacity per fire marshal? Does exceeding that after a big round up make an ICE building illegal?
Afghan engineers for U.S. military got to US in 2021-22 and are rebuilding their lives. But Wednesday they received a letter from the U.S. Embassy in Kabul (closed) signed only by “Chief of mission - COM (no name) saying their fully approved and vetted SIV status has been revoked!
They are given 3 months to appeal using complex series of links without names of anyone who might know about the revoke policy… scam? Musk gone wilder? Deportation to death by Taliban? Anntares@yahoo.com
Disappointing--already there's a comment that negatively interprets defending against harsh immigration practices that would hurt the economy for all and would also violate the rights and safety of nonWhite citizens caught up in ethnic profiling. This topic can elicit knee-jerk emotional responses that Dems *only* care about illegal immigrants despite evidence to the contrary and the inhumane reduction of human beings to "illegals" or "aliens."
Defending the vulnerable is a Democratic principle, and Republicans will use whatever Dems do, on any issue, to score political points. That’s been true for most of my life. I’m tired of timid Dems. Non ironically, let them fight.
Democrats finally get their finger out, for what? To defend *illegal *
immigrants- the one policy that Trump has made that’s actually popular. Not “disassemble USAID” not “fuck education” not “fire veterans and cut money from the VA” or “we gave people contracts but won’t honor them” … not “the man in charge of the bomb is a drunk. “. (FYI No one cares if he Pete he Garth is a rapist, sorry, but why do they just skim over HE IS A DRUNK. That makes him INCAPABLE OF DOING A JOB IF TREMENDOUSLY RESPONSIBILITY. And no he can’t “quit”- if he could control his stuff, he wouldn’t have booze in his office, where he works on Saturday mornings.)
TomD, sure they can. (Keep in mind, my post was sarcastic.)
AI drones, now routinely used for surveying all manner of things, could easily assess if a house needed a new roof or be sent under a home to find a leak (oil and gas send drones down pipelines every single day doing this sort of work). In fact, this is actually a good use for them. Robots and/or other automated equipment, could easily install a roof. To now, the limitation has been computing power and cost. This is not a new phenomenon, btw, it's industrial revolution updated for our current era. When the local population loses the taste for hard work, or becomes to expensive, then immigrant labor fills the hole. They're ultimately replaced by mechanization/automation.
Musk has made it very clear he intends to replace people with his Optimus robots in his production facilities. It's just will and time before this happens.
Nah. I accounted for that and it's outlined in my statement (history speaks for itself, frankly). What you say was true 10 or 15 years ago, not so much now. As an example, I ran a university rapid prototyping lab back around 2000. We had a 3D printer that cost something in the tens of thousands of dollars. The software and computers to run it were many thousands of dollars. The training to use these items? Years! I know 10 year old kids who have $300 3D printers sitting on their family dining room tables that are BETTER than what that machine I had. They're using $200 tablets for design, using free software and they're making and building stuff that I would have struggled to make 25 years ago.
The car thing, is practicality and safety. It's orders of magnitude more difficult to fly than drive and requires significantly more power to do so. Even nature agrees that flying is plenty doable, but not everyone gets to do it.
Meh. My last three cars can do much of the work for me and they're not Tesla.
Just bear in mind, at one point it was believed that humans would never fly and that going faster than 15mph it was impossible for us to breath.
We're surrounded by automation at levels MOST people are unaware of because they're not actively involved with the implementation and utilization. I happen to work in manufacturing and go to factories all over the world. Even in places like China, they're now moving towards high levels of automation vs throwing more people at the problems.
The biggest change has been the rapid drop in cost to develop and implement automated solutions broadly, such that the this technology is intersecting with our normal lives. Nearly anybody with time and will can build an automated drone these days.
Different tools for different tasks, right? Drones can do certain tasks. Not fully autonomous from what I read. So e.g. Russia brought in DPRK human troops for other tasks.
did we not learn anything from this past election? immigration is a stinker of an issue - people (even Democrat voters) want deportations of anyone here undocumented. it's a loser of an issue and anyone seen fighting harder for people here undocumented over legal citizens is ripe to become a target in the midterms. let it go. winners make policy - losers go home with their tails between their legs.
It would be nice if Democratic leadership could advance beyond being 2 steps behind. The mass deportations, while terrible, are but a prelude to the arrest, disappearance, and internment of dissidents (& other undesirables). Everyone knows, it's written down, and it's been proclaimed by Trump himself for well over a year. So if our leadership is "getting off the mat to protect our [immigrant] communities" it's already too little too late. WAKE UP. Erodgan, Putin, et al. aren't advising this administration for the delectation of NYT both-siders; they're rapidly installing literal fascism.
Well, it’s about time! The Trump/Musk Billionaire Boyz, and MAGA, not only want a return to racism … but they want to force the country to join them. The Dixiecrats wholly supported segregation, but balked at demanding the rest of the country to comply.
Trump? Intimidate ‘em! Hurt ‘em. Smirk whilst thou smite!
"A Registry for Immigrants Evokes 9/11", more like "A Registry for Immigrants Evokes Nazi Germany". There, fixed it for you.
I’m moving USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins to the top tier of my list of first cabinet member to leave the administration. Good luck Brooke!
As sad as these deportations are, a huge segment of the US population want this to some degree. This is not the topic that is going to win over enough voters.
I keep saying this, but if dems in blue cities/states really want to push back against Trump's revoking of federal funding as a weapon then they should cut off gas/electricity/water to ICE buildings in their cities/states. THAT is a huge point of leverage that they have over the feds. Just because the blue city/states might have to house a federal ICE facility doesn't mean they have to service them with water/electricity/gas. Send the city inspector(s) out and shut off the pipes to federal ICE facilities as a way to get the Trump admin to start compromising. Let's see ICE organize mass deportations when they can't turn on their office computers or flush their toilets.
Y’know those signs in many public places about maximum capacity per fire marshal? Does exceeding that after a big round up make an ICE building illegal?
Cuz we def don’t like anything illegal, si?
Afghan engineers for U.S. military got to US in 2021-22 and are rebuilding their lives. But Wednesday they received a letter from the U.S. Embassy in Kabul (closed) signed only by “Chief of mission - COM (no name) saying their fully approved and vetted SIV status has been revoked!
They are given 3 months to appeal using complex series of links without names of anyone who might know about the revoke policy… scam? Musk gone wilder? Deportation to death by Taliban? Anntares@yahoo.com
Disappointing--already there's a comment that negatively interprets defending against harsh immigration practices that would hurt the economy for all and would also violate the rights and safety of nonWhite citizens caught up in ethnic profiling. This topic can elicit knee-jerk emotional responses that Dems *only* care about illegal immigrants despite evidence to the contrary and the inhumane reduction of human beings to "illegals" or "aliens."
Defending the vulnerable is a Democratic principle, and Republicans will use whatever Dems do, on any issue, to score political points. That’s been true for most of my life. I’m tired of timid Dems. Non ironically, let them fight.
Thanks for trying but the link you provided from Bloomberg is behind a paywall.
Democrats finally get their finger out, for what? To defend *illegal *
immigrants- the one policy that Trump has made that’s actually popular. Not “disassemble USAID” not “fuck education” not “fire veterans and cut money from the VA” or “we gave people contracts but won’t honor them” … not “the man in charge of the bomb is a drunk. “. (FYI No one cares if he Pete he Garth is a rapist, sorry, but why do they just skim over HE IS A DRUNK. That makes him INCAPABLE OF DOING A JOB IF TREMENDOUSLY RESPONSIBILITY. And no he can’t “quit”- if he could control his stuff, he wouldn’t have booze in his office, where he works on Saturday mornings.)
You might want to edit your comments first before touching the red "post" button.
Democrats can do what they want, but it will be business interests who can't find anyone to do the work who will make the difference.
Don't worry, that's what AI (Musk's Grok, for example) and robots (Musk's Optimus, is on offer) are for...
At some point, it will be LLMs talking to LLMs and giving orders to Robots, but hey...it's just God's will that we go this route.
AI can't put a roof on a house or crawl under to see what's leaking.
TomD, sure they can. (Keep in mind, my post was sarcastic.)
AI drones, now routinely used for surveying all manner of things, could easily assess if a house needed a new roof or be sent under a home to find a leak (oil and gas send drones down pipelines every single day doing this sort of work). In fact, this is actually a good use for them. Robots and/or other automated equipment, could easily install a roof. To now, the limitation has been computing power and cost. This is not a new phenomenon, btw, it's industrial revolution updated for our current era. When the local population loses the taste for hard work, or becomes to expensive, then immigrant labor fills the hole. They're ultimately replaced by mechanization/automation.
Musk has made it very clear he intends to replace people with his Optimus robots in his production facilities. It's just will and time before this happens.
OJVV - your formula omitted a key component: moola. Lots & lots.
If you can have a robot for the price of 50 human workers: deal or no deal?
Still waiting for the flying car I read about in 1950’s Popular Science 🙂
Nah. I accounted for that and it's outlined in my statement (history speaks for itself, frankly). What you say was true 10 or 15 years ago, not so much now. As an example, I ran a university rapid prototyping lab back around 2000. We had a 3D printer that cost something in the tens of thousands of dollars. The software and computers to run it were many thousands of dollars. The training to use these items? Years! I know 10 year old kids who have $300 3D printers sitting on their family dining room tables that are BETTER than what that machine I had. They're using $200 tablets for design, using free software and they're making and building stuff that I would have struggled to make 25 years ago.
The car thing, is practicality and safety. It's orders of magnitude more difficult to fly than drive and requires significantly more power to do so. Even nature agrees that flying is plenty doable, but not everyone gets to do it.
I’ve read that Tesla has claimed to have reliable self-driving for years but owners still waiting?
Meh. My last three cars can do much of the work for me and they're not Tesla.
Just bear in mind, at one point it was believed that humans would never fly and that going faster than 15mph it was impossible for us to breath.
We're surrounded by automation at levels MOST people are unaware of because they're not actively involved with the implementation and utilization. I happen to work in manufacturing and go to factories all over the world. Even in places like China, they're now moving towards high levels of automation vs throwing more people at the problems.
The biggest change has been the rapid drop in cost to develop and implement automated solutions broadly, such that the this technology is intersecting with our normal lives. Nearly anybody with time and will can build an automated drone these days.
Different tools for different tasks, right? Drones can do certain tasks. Not fully autonomous from what I read. So e.g. Russia brought in DPRK human troops for other tasks.
But they are not presently able to make those repairs.
Optimus? No.
This guy? https://www.renovaterobotics.com/ Yep.