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This may have been my favorite Tim-era flagship pod episode yet. Especially as I'm listening the day after The Verdict, this convo is the perfect counterpoint to the intense churn of the news. I greatly value Tim's "ripped from the headlines" episodes, but this time I feel like my brain made measurable forward progress in understanding the tangle of our national political-cultural problems. I'd like to hear JVL's reaction to these findings, and then I'd like to hear some brainstorming on our way forward. Great stuff

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