I don't mind sending everything we can get to the Ukrainians, I just understand that if this ever escalates to a world war in a year or two, it's mostly going to be poor kids on active duty getting recycled to a conflict that mostly-liberals risked us getting into, while many of said liberals would never put their own lives or the lives …
I don't mind sending everything we can get to the Ukrainians, I just understand that if this ever escalates to a world war in a year or two, it's mostly going to be poor kids on active duty getting recycled to a conflict that mostly-liberals risked us getting into, while many of said liberals would never put their own lives or the lives of their children on the line. They'll just say "oops, it's a world war and we're involved now, better go recycle those poor conservative kids again while putting everything on the national credit card again while my kid goes off to a 4-year institute of learning where he will be told over and over again that war is wrong in all of its forms." It'll be Clinton liberals sending low-income/patriotic MAGA kids off to die in a war that the Clinton liberals would never allow their own children to be a part of in the first place while simultaneously rooting it on and talking about how important the preservation of democracy overseas is. And they wonder why MAGA hates their guts lol.
Do... do you know who makes up about 80% of combat arms jobs? There's a big difference between the military at large and the people who hold combat arms jobs. In fact, there are *strict* differences in physical requirements between the two types of jobs, which is why the Navy/AF are allowed to be fat in uniform while the Army/Marine ground combat jobs are not. A bulk fuel specialist and an infantryman have VERY different standards of living in the military, and they often come from very different walks of life.
Cool. So we're in agreement that the majority of infantrymen are non-minority then yes? Now breakdown the minority men bracket and you'll probably see that the vast majority are latino.
Should we do the math together? Or should we look up the meaning of the phrase “vast majority”? And all this still has nothing to do with who would be going off and fighting which as you suggested would be patriotic MAGA kids
I just showed you that the majority of infantry representation is white/latino. I don't know what else you're looking for.... and again, when you're actually serving alongside or in the infantry, you're not going to see a lot of liberals there. Maybe I should have used "conservative" instead of MAGA, but most of the kids in the infantry are too young to have formed solid political opinions yet, they're just not who we would consider liberals by modern standards when you compare them to liberal counterparts of the same age cohort via social/cultural lines. Latinos do not auto-default to liberal. Most latinos I know are conservatives.
The American South always contributed more than its proportionate share of military participants -- except maybe during the draft era until about the time Vietnam got escalated.
Culture of honor communities (I surmise) are more inclined that way, not a condemnation.
But what worries me is not so much that it's conservatives who are attracted to the military as it's blood-and-soil conservatives. All those kids entering the military at the most formative stage in their adult lives -- are we creating a bakery for "illiberal democracy" as Orban explicitly calls it? So when they come out, are we making nascent brownshirts?
Garbage in equals garbage out. The standards for recruiting were very low during the peak of combat in the 00's. We didn't have enough volunteers, so a lot of waivers were made for incoming recruits that would have been otherwise rejected during normal years. DOD cares a lot more about prior drug use--including marijuana--than it does a recruit's political outlooks. As long as the "blood and soil" neo-nazi types don't come in with obvious tattoos then chances are they'll be let in. I've had a few people like this in the units I served in and kept the fact that I came from Jewish stock a secret for what are now pretty obvious reasons after we see where groups like Atomwaffen and Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys like to get their favorite members/leaders from.
I don't mind sending everything we can get to the Ukrainians, I just understand that if this ever escalates to a world war in a year or two, it's mostly going to be poor kids on active duty getting recycled to a conflict that mostly-liberals risked us getting into, while many of said liberals would never put their own lives or the lives of their children on the line. They'll just say "oops, it's a world war and we're involved now, better go recycle those poor conservative kids again while putting everything on the national credit card again while my kid goes off to a 4-year institute of learning where he will be told over and over again that war is wrong in all of its forms." It'll be Clinton liberals sending low-income/patriotic MAGA kids off to die in a war that the Clinton liberals would never allow their own children to be a part of in the first place while simultaneously rooting it on and talking about how important the preservation of democracy overseas is. And they wonder why MAGA hates their guts lol.
“Low income/patriotic MAGA kids.”
Do…do you know who makes up about 50% of the military?
Do... do you know who makes up about 80% of combat arms jobs? There's a big difference between the military at large and the people who hold combat arms jobs. In fact, there are *strict* differences in physical requirements between the two types of jobs, which is why the Navy/AF are allowed to be fat in uniform while the Army/Marine ground combat jobs are not. A bulk fuel specialist and an infantryman have VERY different standards of living in the military, and they often come from very different walks of life.
48% of 11Bs are minority men.
Cool. So we're in agreement that the majority of infantrymen are non-minority then yes? Now breakdown the minority men bracket and you'll probably see that the vast majority are latino.
Also incredible how deftly you moved on from who makes up “80% of combat arms jobs”
And you’d be wrong in that assumption.
Really? https://www.zippia.com/infantry-jobs/demographics/
Should we do the math together? Or should we look up the meaning of the phrase “vast majority”? And all this still has nothing to do with who would be going off and fighting which as you suggested would be patriotic MAGA kids
I just showed you that the majority of infantry representation is white/latino. I don't know what else you're looking for.... and again, when you're actually serving alongside or in the infantry, you're not going to see a lot of liberals there. Maybe I should have used "conservative" instead of MAGA, but most of the kids in the infantry are too young to have formed solid political opinions yet, they're just not who we would consider liberals by modern standards when you compare them to liberal counterparts of the same age cohort via social/cultural lines. Latinos do not auto-default to liberal. Most latinos I know are conservatives.
The American South always contributed more than its proportionate share of military participants -- except maybe during the draft era until about the time Vietnam got escalated.
Culture of honor communities (I surmise) are more inclined that way, not a condemnation.
But what worries me is not so much that it's conservatives who are attracted to the military as it's blood-and-soil conservatives. All those kids entering the military at the most formative stage in their adult lives -- are we creating a bakery for "illiberal democracy" as Orban explicitly calls it? So when they come out, are we making nascent brownshirts?
Garbage in equals garbage out. The standards for recruiting were very low during the peak of combat in the 00's. We didn't have enough volunteers, so a lot of waivers were made for incoming recruits that would have been otherwise rejected during normal years. DOD cares a lot more about prior drug use--including marijuana--than it does a recruit's political outlooks. As long as the "blood and soil" neo-nazi types don't come in with obvious tattoos then chances are they'll be let in. I've had a few people like this in the units I served in and kept the fact that I came from Jewish stock a secret for what are now pretty obvious reasons after we see where groups like Atomwaffen and Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys like to get their favorite members/leaders from.