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Pretty enraging. Lies got us into this crisis, and we're not going to lie ourselves out of this crisis. Continuing to lie will simply make this worse. Democratic politicians refusing to publicly speak the truth about the leader of our party reminds me of a certain party that virtually every person in this space has condemned for the last 8 years. I know I've had a lot to say over the last 8 years about the lies and cowardice of Republicans. My party is bringing shame upon itself and upon me.

On non-Biden but still related note regarding party shortcomings, Why the hell is Bob Menendez still in the Senate?

If Biden is the nominee, I'll vote for him, but I'm reregistering as Independent after the DNC.

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If Biden is NOT the nominee, I will register independent after the election. Not sure I will ever vote again if the Dems boot Biden. Because unlike so many I can see that there really is NO TIME left. The time to replace Biden was 12 months ago. That ship sailed, the plane is in the air, and we all better damn well hang together or we will most assuredly hang separately. (Many will be on trump’s hit list)

I am channeling my inner Cassandra and believe that with this brouhaha the democrats are once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and shooting themselves in both feet and the hand not holding the gun.

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Biden is simply not up to snatching anything anymore. His ship has sailed. And to use another cliche, there's no time like the present, to make a change.

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Go ahead and lose, idiot.

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Yes, we can disagree but there is no need to hurl insults.

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I’m sorry, but in what universe does it look like Biden is winning to you? “the democrats are once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory”? Biden is losing handily to a convicted felon/adjudicated rapist/fraudster who wants to terminate parts of The Constitution. He, and anyone defending him, needs to wake up and realize he cannot win this election. He doesn’t have it and we’re all going to suffer for his delusions (or ego?).

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Is there some current evidence pointing to a Biden victory? Besides the Lichtman "keys," which he himself says accrue equally to Harris, if she becomes the incumbent before the election.

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Ezra's reporting about the behind the scenes views of Democratic leadership that Biden cannot win needs to be shouted from the rooftops. In a sane world, this would flip the script that the Biden-retention crowd is all for the best chance of winning.

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Esra's ideas of how to solve this - a brokered convention are nutty. Esra is good at identifying problems, but has he ever been part of a contested convention as a delegate - not as media? If not, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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Same.

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