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An independent run will only split the vote and lead to a Trump win. We need to take a lesson from France and put on a united front. It doesn't matter if it's Biden, Whitmer, Kamala, or someone else, everyone needs to coalesce around one candidate and one party.

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He has been saying the same thing for 2 years. Biden could have a perfect debate and he was going to do the same thing

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I no longer accept that adage as axiomatically true. I want both Trump and Biden to lose. We have a coup plotter versus an addled invalid. Both are unfit. We are in uncharted territory, so your priors are worthless. If the Democrats do not fix their problem, I'm out. I'm not giving them a blank check, especially not after hearing what Ezra Klein divulged. I am done with the Democrats.

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These aren't my priors. It's the literal function of a first past the post electoral system. Like it or not, a third party divides coalitions and strengthens the other side.

Unless you plan to revamp the entire voting system prior to October a moderate or center left third party will only help Trump

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I hear you. The problem is this. The Democrats failed the coalition. They failed their country. The Republicans betrayed their country. The Democrats failed it. It's time for drastic action.

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Biden is fine. Stop! Yes he's old but that's why he has advisors. When he's n office he can get Harris do the heavy lifting while he acts presidential and heads meetings and makes the important decisions with his advisors.

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My concern is that voters (especially undecideds) consider this less than transparent like a bait & switch and either don't vote or don't vote Biden/Harris.

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Honestly, I've been thinking about this lately. If Biden is too old, is there really a fundamental difference between a Biden/Harris ticket and a Harris/??? ticket?

Maybe it's time to turn the Republican "a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris" attack line against them

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