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1) I see a box fight with one opponent conceding.

2) Yes, we can agree that there is a lot of stuff unknown.

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Just posted on X (of course, this isn't proof. But you know the saying about walks like a duck .... in this case, punched like a man)

The European Vice President of the World Boxing Organization has come forward to confirm that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is male.

Istv├бn Kov├бcs says he warned the Olympic Committee about several male boxers in the women's category, but nothing was done.

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The Hungarian secretary appointed by a Russian president. Do find a source that has proof of the xy chromosome thing which would merely indicate she is intersex. Beyond that everything that is known is that she is a woman Ana's has been a woman since birth.

BTW this is not about protecting women but about who can and cannot be a woman. Quite the controlling and mysoginist approach. But yes, keep looking for the unfounded tweet of the politically motivated mysoginist chap.

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Lordy, Lordy, now feminists are mysoginists! I've heard that's the latest tactic in trans ideology. It's clear you're not at all interested in anything that doesn't confirm what you want to believe.

A key point to note is that the IOC used to conduct gender tests - that measure whether your chromosomes are XX or XY - but no longer. I wonder why?

Allowing XY people to bash XX people is simply not kosher. The entire reason we have women's categories is as fundamental as that.

But I'm disengaging now.

Just in case anyone else is following this, Quillette also has a very good explainer that's easily accessed.

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Feminism at its inception is an emancipation project, about centering the experience of women, and gender minorities, and achieving equality. Many of its early authors were white women of privilege, on one hand, they enjoyed class and race privilege, while at the same time being discriminated against, harassed, and attacked for their gender.

Feminism has been relatively successful in the West, and to a certain extent some emancipation has been achieved, and many, if not most feminists are no longer political activists with a deep knowledge of the terminology and political debates around it.

One of those terms is intersectionality: a term coined by Kimberl├й Crenshaw from the perspective of a black woman who experienced both sexism and racism because of her identity and the body she inhabited. But intersectionality is not only about subalternity тАУ a term that defines those whose social, political, or geographical position is excluded from what is normative or a node of power. It can also denote a mix of subalternity and privilege.

In my case I can be a cisgender male - that is a man whose gender identity identifies with his biological gender, with an upper-middle-class upbringing; and a brown Hispanic migrant: I am privileged because of class and of gender, and subaltern because of race, ethnicity, and nationality.

Unfortunately, today there is a strain of feminism coined by French author Fran├зoise Verg├иs, a back woman who grew up on the Reunion Island. Put bluntly, it explains how white bourgeois feminism can be used to engrain the privilege of women of certain races and classes, to the detriment of race and class minorities. This a very convenient discourse from white upper-middle-class women, who will identify as feminists, but only when it comes to their own subalternity of gender while backgrounding their privilege of class and race: For example white upper-middle-class powerful women who only care about the glass ceiling of their careers while at the same time being dismissive of the often women of color to tend to their children as nannies, the sexual needs of their partners as sexual workers, the quality of their spaces of work as cleaners.

Worse than that, this strain of feminist discourse has been co-opted by the far-right to be used as a tool of oppression. This is what happens when Trump, Vance, or Giorgia Meloni ( Italian Premier), or Marine Le Pen ( the head of Rassemblement National, the French far-right party who almost won the elections a month ago) speak of defending тАЬourтАЭ women from the dangers of those brown Muslim migrants here to rape them. ItтАЩs the same discourse that justifies forbidding the use of Islamic headwear in public spaces owned by the state in the French republic: it is not about the liberty of choice of women, but about determining what is and what is not, according to a normative perspective that centers the discourse of the far-right in the west.

Good for you for being aware of your subalternity in terms of gender. Perhaps you could extend that courtesy to others because of race, or class, or immigration status? Just saying.

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I don't like posting links, but if you're at all interested, Reduxx has a story quoting this chap saying this boxer was known to be male as early as 2022

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