I watched a longer clip that showed two interruptions with responses and explained that she had already met with a group of protestors prior to the rally. I found her response succinct and tough, and the crowd agreed.
She gave a better response today in Arizona, during her speech when the protesters started yelling again - calling on both Hamas and Israel to end the war and release the hostages.
Yeah, she gave them the Mom Stare and what for... Not giving shit to the woman in the room. It reminded me of the staff meeting where "Evan" interrupted me and I said "Evan.. what exactly is your role here? Your title? Okay, Tech Evan, I acknowledge your impulse control challenges, but I am speaking here and if you cannot control yourself from speaking over me and interrupting, I suggest you go back to your workstation and join us on Zoom on mute. So as I was saying.."
If we are to survive we need the Mom Stare and the what for, absolutely.
I'm sick and tired of men (I'm a male, by the way) behaving like clowns, boors, and assholes and parading themselves back and forth and up and down as if professional wrestling is the same thing as the work of government. Or for that matter, life.
In other words, people who seem to think playing "air guitar" is the same thing as being Andres Segovia.
The MAGA "talent show" is an orgy of frenzied mummery at the funeral of the United States of America. Either we wake up and shake our heads and recognize this or we perish. Probably we perish.
Kamala shows signs of being a new Margaret Thatcher -- not in policy, but in gravitas, maturity, deportment, and force of character. Hope?
Show me a man in America -- any male public figure today -- who can match the force of character in that stare and statement. Maybe she's the only remaining adult in the room of the republic. No crap Kamala?
The ones that come to mind do all seem to be women. Nancy Pelosi. Spanberger. Big Gretsch. Klobuchar.
I disagree that JVL thinks she should do that. I think he's saying she handled the situation well. I think he's thinking that he wishes she would've articulated her policies, but knows, as a practical matter, that the rally wasn't really the place to do that. She needs to do that on the debate stage or in an interview with a journalist and/or interviewer.
You're right. I think it comes down to televised media wants to show a brief clip of something (with no analysis following) and print media wants the latest quote to transcribe as 'breaking' news, as if anything that hasn't been said in the past hour is irrelevant ancient history. This is the malignancy in our current media system.
Watergate hurt journalism, in my opinion. We now have too many journalists looking for "gotcha" moments that could propel them to the status obtained by Woodward and Bernstein.
Televised media is shit. Every single news channel broadcasted Trump's braindump stream of consciousness lies and delusions for a full hour from Mara Loco... but not one broadcasted Kamala's speech to the UAW. It is 2016 again... even MSNBC
I agree, it was shocking. They ran it uninterrupted, no fact checking, no ads, and all I could think was, they're doing it again. Their obsession with him is depressing. He should not have been on cable news for that long uninterrupted. Honestly, who does he think he is?
My maiden name, Halliburton, was arrived at by Halley-Burton. Very distinguished even though the family was potato-famine Irish and the rest of them were “Murphy.” My great-grandmother was a Murphy and then I married one.
It’s a shame that “politics” seems to demand a simple answer to the complex issues of Israel and the Middle East more generally. If ever there were a region that could not be regarded as a set of immutable monoliths, it’s the Middle East. A millennial-old problem or set thereof. I generally agree with KH’s position as Sean has outlined it, and I wonder how often she - and the experts who see and have to deal with the complexities and contradictions - feel as though having to speak about them in detail is like trying to explain to a 6 year-old-how to find the bathroom in a strange house in the middle of the night in the dark. It’s one step, one identified corner, one long wall to slide along at a time; and let’s hope we remember where the really steep stairs are so we don’t trip and hurdle down in one clumsy and potentially dangerous move!
Back in 2020 didn't the media folks (or pundits, or whomever showed up on cable news to pontificate) squawk about Elizabeth Warren having too many plans with too much information? If anything, getting traction in today's news environment even more fully requires either an outlandish statement (please, Kamala, don't do that) or a 7-second soundbite and compelling image.
I have an incredibly boring one track mediocre mind on this. I want us to win - I do,not wàt her to try to coddle the media by doing long talk fasts where what they want to do is play gotcha or to coddle the left of the D party. I’m,delighted she told them to pound sand. If she knocks off’the fat orange felôn/rqpist/liar then We can have real debates again Right now what I want to see is’the kind of ruthlessness she is showing. All of us have to say loudly that this is not a gentle debate,between people,who have rules. It’s a knife fight, there is no équivalence, and I want her to fight to win it. Given that the NYT announced that it didn’t care about democracy I see no reason to listen to them . All they want is for her to make what they can call a mistake, so they can jump all,over it. F*** them
She’s already given her Israel policy after she met with Bibi:
1) she supports Israel’s right to defend itself and supports giving them what they need to do so
2) she said that Oct 7 was horrific
3) she said that what is happening now in Gaza is awful as well and needs to stop through a negotiated cease-fire
4) and she said she supports a two-state solution
Not sure what else she can or should say beyond that.
The author acts like she’s she supposed to stop the momentum and give a detailed response.
I watched a longer clip that showed two interruptions with responses and explained that she had already met with a group of protestors prior to the rally. I found her response succinct and tough, and the crowd agreed.
She gave a better response today in Arizona, during her speech when the protesters started yelling again - calling on both Hamas and Israel to end the war and release the hostages.
Yeah, she gave them the Mom Stare and what for... Not giving shit to the woman in the room. It reminded me of the staff meeting where "Evan" interrupted me and I said "Evan.. what exactly is your role here? Your title? Okay, Tech Evan, I acknowledge your impulse control challenges, but I am speaking here and if you cannot control yourself from speaking over me and interrupting, I suggest you go back to your workstation and join us on Zoom on mute. So as I was saying.."
If we are to survive we need the Mom Stare and the what for, absolutely.
I'm sick and tired of men (I'm a male, by the way) behaving like clowns, boors, and assholes and parading themselves back and forth and up and down as if professional wrestling is the same thing as the work of government. Or for that matter, life.
In other words, people who seem to think playing "air guitar" is the same thing as being Andres Segovia.
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The MAGA "talent show" is an orgy of frenzied mummery at the funeral of the United States of America. Either we wake up and shake our heads and recognize this or we perish. Probably we perish.
Kamala shows signs of being a new Margaret Thatcher -- not in policy, but in gravitas, maturity, deportment, and force of character. Hope?
She did the absolute right thing. Plus a hard stare down when he/they wouldn’t stop. No insults, no disrespect.
oh man, as a former child, that cold eyed stare made my blood run cold.
My mother perfected that look.
That look was the warning. Once she invites you to the ladies room, you know you are in for it.
Show me a man in America -- any male public figure today -- who can match the force of character in that stare and statement. Maybe she's the only remaining adult in the room of the republic. No crap Kamala?
The ones that come to mind do all seem to be women. Nancy Pelosi. Spanberger. Big Gretsch. Klobuchar.
Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio?
Eh, I think Ben was just making a distinction between his personal interest and how successful campaigns actually work. I didn’t take it negatively.
I disagree that JVL thinks she should do that. I think he's saying she handled the situation well. I think he's thinking that he wishes she would've articulated her policies, but knows, as a practical matter, that the rally wasn't really the place to do that. She needs to do that on the debate stage or in an interview with a journalist and/or interviewer.
Yes, and of course that would be very unhelpful in this context.
You're right. I think it comes down to televised media wants to show a brief clip of something (with no analysis following) and print media wants the latest quote to transcribe as 'breaking' news, as if anything that hasn't been said in the past hour is irrelevant ancient history. This is the malignancy in our current media system.
Watergate hurt journalism, in my opinion. We now have too many journalists looking for "gotcha" moments that could propel them to the status obtained by Woodward and Bernstein.
That definitely explains the 'scrum', as Joe Perticone puts it.
Televised media is shit. Every single news channel broadcasted Trump's braindump stream of consciousness lies and delusions for a full hour from Mara Loco... but not one broadcasted Kamala's speech to the UAW. It is 2016 again... even MSNBC
I agree, it was shocking. They ran it uninterrupted, no fact checking, no ads, and all I could think was, they're doing it again. Their obsession with him is depressing. He should not have been on cable news for that long uninterrupted. Honestly, who does he think he is?
You have the same last name as me..related...???? Please tell me.
I am Ingrid Robertshaw @ tensladyir@aol.com
Definitely a cool name. British?
I'm guessing two British surnames that were once hyphenated, as the British like to do (Roberts-Shaw). Just my guess, and it's my name!
My maiden name, Halliburton, was arrived at by Halley-Burton. Very distinguished even though the family was potato-famine Irish and the rest of them were “Murphy.” My great-grandmother was a Murphy and then I married one.
Explains the middle initial - interesting.
Wow, it's such a rare name! Not to my knowledge, but will get in touch just the same.
It’s a shame that “politics” seems to demand a simple answer to the complex issues of Israel and the Middle East more generally. If ever there were a region that could not be regarded as a set of immutable monoliths, it’s the Middle East. A millennial-old problem or set thereof. I generally agree with KH’s position as Sean has outlined it, and I wonder how often she - and the experts who see and have to deal with the complexities and contradictions - feel as though having to speak about them in detail is like trying to explain to a 6 year-old-how to find the bathroom in a strange house in the middle of the night in the dark. It’s one step, one identified corner, one long wall to slide along at a time; and let’s hope we remember where the really steep stairs are so we don’t trip and hurdle down in one clumsy and potentially dangerous move!
Back in 2020 didn't the media folks (or pundits, or whomever showed up on cable news to pontificate) squawk about Elizabeth Warren having too many plans with too much information? If anything, getting traction in today's news environment even more fully requires either an outlandish statement (please, Kamala, don't do that) or a 7-second soundbite and compelling image.
Agree. Thanks for the details.
I have an incredibly boring one track mediocre mind on this. I want us to win - I do,not wàt her to try to coddle the media by doing long talk fasts where what they want to do is play gotcha or to coddle the left of the D party. I’m,delighted she told them to pound sand. If she knocks off’the fat orange felôn/rqpist/liar then We can have real debates again Right now what I want to see is’the kind of ruthlessness she is showing. All of us have to say loudly that this is not a gentle debate,between people,who have rules. It’s a knife fight, there is no équivalence, and I want her to fight to win it. Given that the NYT announced that it didn’t care about democracy I see no reason to listen to them . All they want is for her to make what they can call a mistake, so they can jump all,over it. F*** them
Maggie Thatcher Kamala
It’s part of their new meme. Just ignore reality and complain.