"In a brief interview with POLITICO on Saturday, Walker seemed to mistake which chamber of Congress he was running for and also appeared to think the outcome of his race would determine control of the Senate."
Regarding Walker, for years I've heard the reply from my Maga friends "So What? They all chisel, lie, and are hypocrites."
It matters to me, but I've trouble explaining why they ought to care and ought to reject voting for the worst of them. If you have any suggestions, they would be most welcome!!
Because, in their eyes, the alternative to their preferred chisler, liar and hypocrite is a worse kind of chisler, liar and hypocrite--- a Democrat.
So in their calculation the person they support is the one who will inflict the most pain and suffering on the ones they hate worse. So morality has no relevance. Winning by any means necessary is all that counts.
Winning feels sexy and empowering. Having the will to power over those one hates feels good. To grind the face of one's enemies into the dirt is the highest expression of freedom.
That is why they will not be moved. To have a conscience is weakness. To have a fixed moral compass and definite principles is for losers because when push comes to shove the moral and principled person is the weakest link in the battlefront.
The cruelty IS the point.
That is also why they are willing to give up on democracy because democracy means HAVING to let those you hate participate as equals. A dictatorship imposed by someone they like is the most efficient way to dominate and control those they hate and fear.
I've read your reply multiple times looking for flaws. Your reply seems true but it's hard to take. These are friends and relatives of mine who in the past always seemed to have (and use) a real moral compass, who seemed to believe that morality was never irrelevant, who didn't seem to be carrying hate for Democrats and the "other" , . . . It's easy for me to point out to my MAGA friends and relatives their errors of facts or logic (false equivalence, omission of key facts, etc.) It's so difficult to dispute such raw cynicism about values, principles, democracy, institutions, the golden rule, . . .
Perhaps midterm MAGA losses will show that such hate and cynicism is a losing strategy. If MAGA wins the midterms, God help us.
I'm on a cruise ship and at one of the dinners the Captain introduced the crew. Two of the crew were from Ukraine and there was a rousing applause for them. This was a ship with mostly white suburban, (and southern) older guests. I think Fox News and their love for Putin is not shared by people they assume are their constuency. Too many of them remember the dangers of Soviet Russia and Putin't connection to it.
Broads and skanks…..1 in 4 women have had an abortion at some time in their lives and the Hyde amendment prohibits government money to be used for this MEDICAL procedure. So I guess there are more skanks not using taxpayer dollars than anyone on the right seems to think. Now, how do women keep the government out of our skanky vaginas????? Oh, wait. Maybe vote blue to codify Roe. Yeah, that’s it….vote Democratic. Vote BLUE.
Little Miss Super Beets really is just garbage with a pricey haircut. Then again, the NRA had a tendency to collect garbage in its media arm--Miss Super Beets...Dan Bada-Bingo (still amazed how he passed entrance screening for rhe Secret Service)...and a few more mediocrities that I am not interested enough to look up at the moment. Should anyone be surprised that Miss Super Beets is this vile..no, not really--she has been this way for years.
Charlie, when you say (in the Herschel Walker commentary) that the “Ethics and Public Policy Center,” is "inaptly named", might I point out that the name DOES NOT SAY if they are FOR or AGAINST ethics in public policy! The fact that their Statement of Principles is endorsed by the Family Research Council (equally "inaptly named") might offer a clue!
Standing rule for the alt-conservative MAGA GOP team: It's not how you play the game, it's whether you win or lose!
I’ve sort of left behind my anger and caring about what the Republican Party has devolved into. It’s almost a waste of time which I have precious little of. Then Charlie puts this mornings product out - and - my rage re-emerges. I’m a new Christian in the evangelical mold- and I’m disgusted by the sweeping and, I think , idolatrous behavior of political Christians(ie Trump Republican Christian voters) and their political wannabes - I see you RonJon, Liddle Marco, etc. I doubt that there are any Republican members of Congress who actually read scripture and understand it’s message as my Lord Jesus Christ meant it. They are as blasphemous as the Pharisees and as far away from the truth of our Lord and Creator.
The only solution is a complete and utter destruction of the Republican Party as it exists. I don’t know exactly how to do that - but as a start I’m supporting and voting for whatever Liz CHENEY 2024 wants.
I guess we've all gotten past the fact that Walker is an inarticulate homunculus with no discernible qualifications for the U.S. Senate, whose only reason for being selected by the GOP was their cynical calculation that being black would negate Raphael Warnock's appeal to black voters.
I normally cringe at playing the "race card", but once in a while the clear political subtext of a situation is so repugnant and insulting that it has to be called out. To me, there's a bold attack ad here that writes itself. String together a few of Walker's unintelligible mind-vomits in response to actual policy questions and then juxtapose them with Warnock. "This is what the GOP thinks of black Georgians. That they'll prefer *this* guy to *this* guy." Maybe they're waiting for the debate to do this for them.
Their argument is that if Matt Gaetz, for example, wants to have sex with a 12-year old prostitute in public, beat her savagely, then fly her to California for an abortion, then murder her afterward for fun while high on cocaine and chanting hail Satan, and they still need to vote for him because he'll vote against abortion and communism. I see.
We need to stop self-satisfyingly marinating is the hypocrisy of the Rights' voices and focus on the real, domestic terror that would flow from a Trump presidency, with the fully support of Republican elites and the passive acquiescence of "Republican" sheep. We are not facing a different public policy direction with a change in party control. We are facing a permanent Fascist state headed by an amoral, vindictive dictator and his acolytes. Show trials, imprisonment of enemies, and an entrenched cultural American Apartheid.
"In a brief interview with POLITICO on Saturday, Walker seemed to mistake which chamber of Congress he was running for and also appeared to think the outcome of his race would determine control of the Senate."
I used to like bowties, but Henry Olsen has destroyed them for me.
Newt is a travesty, he is no one to. speak to Walkers "commitment to Christ"....I have noticed he seems to want to be relevant again..
The GQP = human filth.
Ron Johnson makes me sick.
That is all.
I can ignore a lot of Repub crazy, but that quote by Dana Loesch really threw me for a loop. How can people live with themselves?
Will any of this be covered by the media in general, and the Bulwark in particular. I think it is worthy of some discussion. Maybe. Sort of?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/us/politics/ukraine-russia-dugina-assassination.html
Regarding Walker, for years I've heard the reply from my Maga friends "So What? They all chisel, lie, and are hypocrites."
It matters to me, but I've trouble explaining why they ought to care and ought to reject voting for the worst of them. If you have any suggestions, they would be most welcome!!
It is an impossible task.
Because, in their eyes, the alternative to their preferred chisler, liar and hypocrite is a worse kind of chisler, liar and hypocrite--- a Democrat.
So in their calculation the person they support is the one who will inflict the most pain and suffering on the ones they hate worse. So morality has no relevance. Winning by any means necessary is all that counts.
Winning feels sexy and empowering. Having the will to power over those one hates feels good. To grind the face of one's enemies into the dirt is the highest expression of freedom.
That is why they will not be moved. To have a conscience is weakness. To have a fixed moral compass and definite principles is for losers because when push comes to shove the moral and principled person is the weakest link in the battlefront.
The cruelty IS the point.
That is also why they are willing to give up on democracy because democracy means HAVING to let those you hate participate as equals. A dictatorship imposed by someone they like is the most efficient way to dominate and control those they hate and fear.
I've read your reply multiple times looking for flaws. Your reply seems true but it's hard to take. These are friends and relatives of mine who in the past always seemed to have (and use) a real moral compass, who seemed to believe that morality was never irrelevant, who didn't seem to be carrying hate for Democrats and the "other" , . . . It's easy for me to point out to my MAGA friends and relatives their errors of facts or logic (false equivalence, omission of key facts, etc.) It's so difficult to dispute such raw cynicism about values, principles, democracy, institutions, the golden rule, . . .
Perhaps midterm MAGA losses will show that such hate and cynicism is a losing strategy. If MAGA wins the midterms, God help us.
The gradual loss of objective realty among my family and friends has been the greatest heartbreak of the last decade.
I am a conservative but reality, goodness, truth and beauty still must be maintained or life isn't worth living.
I'm on a cruise ship and at one of the dinners the Captain introduced the crew. Two of the crew were from Ukraine and there was a rousing applause for them. This was a ship with mostly white suburban, (and southern) older guests. I think Fox News and their love for Putin is not shared by people they assume are their constuency. Too many of them remember the dangers of Soviet Russia and Putin't connection to it.
Broads and skanks…..1 in 4 women have had an abortion at some time in their lives and the Hyde amendment prohibits government money to be used for this MEDICAL procedure. So I guess there are more skanks not using taxpayer dollars than anyone on the right seems to think. Now, how do women keep the government out of our skanky vaginas????? Oh, wait. Maybe vote blue to codify Roe. Yeah, that’s it….vote Democratic. Vote BLUE.
Little Miss Super Beets really is just garbage with a pricey haircut. Then again, the NRA had a tendency to collect garbage in its media arm--Miss Super Beets...Dan Bada-Bingo (still amazed how he passed entrance screening for rhe Secret Service)...and a few more mediocrities that I am not interested enough to look up at the moment. Should anyone be surprised that Miss Super Beets is this vile..no, not really--she has been this way for years.
Charlie, when you say (in the Herschel Walker commentary) that the “Ethics and Public Policy Center,” is "inaptly named", might I point out that the name DOES NOT SAY if they are FOR or AGAINST ethics in public policy! The fact that their Statement of Principles is endorsed by the Family Research Council (equally "inaptly named") might offer a clue!
Standing rule for the alt-conservative MAGA GOP team: It's not how you play the game, it's whether you win or lose!
I’ve sort of left behind my anger and caring about what the Republican Party has devolved into. It’s almost a waste of time which I have precious little of. Then Charlie puts this mornings product out - and - my rage re-emerges. I’m a new Christian in the evangelical mold- and I’m disgusted by the sweeping and, I think , idolatrous behavior of political Christians(ie Trump Republican Christian voters) and their political wannabes - I see you RonJon, Liddle Marco, etc. I doubt that there are any Republican members of Congress who actually read scripture and understand it’s message as my Lord Jesus Christ meant it. They are as blasphemous as the Pharisees and as far away from the truth of our Lord and Creator.
The only solution is a complete and utter destruction of the Republican Party as it exists. I don’t know exactly how to do that - but as a start I’m supporting and voting for whatever Liz CHENEY 2024 wants.
I guess we've all gotten past the fact that Walker is an inarticulate homunculus with no discernible qualifications for the U.S. Senate, whose only reason for being selected by the GOP was their cynical calculation that being black would negate Raphael Warnock's appeal to black voters.
I normally cringe at playing the "race card", but once in a while the clear political subtext of a situation is so repugnant and insulting that it has to be called out. To me, there's a bold attack ad here that writes itself. String together a few of Walker's unintelligible mind-vomits in response to actual policy questions and then juxtapose them with Warnock. "This is what the GOP thinks of black Georgians. That they'll prefer *this* guy to *this* guy." Maybe they're waiting for the debate to do this for them.
Their argument is that if Matt Gaetz, for example, wants to have sex with a 12-year old prostitute in public, beat her savagely, then fly her to California for an abortion, then murder her afterward for fun while high on cocaine and chanting hail Satan, and they still need to vote for him because he'll vote against abortion and communism. I see.
At least he's not a socialist.
But if he’s a Satanist, he’d have to be a socialist as well, by definition.
We need to stop self-satisfyingly marinating is the hypocrisy of the Rights' voices and focus on the real, domestic terror that would flow from a Trump presidency, with the fully support of Republican elites and the passive acquiescence of "Republican" sheep. We are not facing a different public policy direction with a change in party control. We are facing a permanent Fascist state headed by an amoral, vindictive dictator and his acolytes. Show trials, imprisonment of enemies, and an entrenched cultural American Apartheid.
You're only saying that because they are telling us that is what they'll do.
Correct