Yes, the problem of “unchecked immigration” and immigrants somehow ruining our country are fake problems ginned up the MAGAts and as such should be nearer the bottom of the Dems agenda. *But* the concerns about illegally rounding up and deporting people, terrorizing people at the border and just ignoring the Constitution are hugely concerning and should be at the top of EVERYBODY’S list.
Yes, the problem of “unchecked immigration” and immigrants somehow ruining our country are fake problems ginned up the MAGAts and as such should be nearer the bottom of the Dems agenda. *But* the concerns about illegally rounding up and deporting people, terrorizing people at the border and just ignoring the Constitution are hugely concerning and should be at the top of EVERYBODY’S list.
I agree, but the nuance will go completely over the heads of most Americans (i.e. violations of the 1st amendment protection of the freedom of speech, and the 5th and 14th amendments which provide due process). For most Americans, this will be yet another example of "Democrats are for They/Them".
The American people voted to have less immigration, legal or illegal. That's their right. Even the immigrant communities support restrictions. There is little to be gained by fighting this battle.
You are throwing around speculative numbers which aren't backed by any scientific survey. And I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the 2 subgroups of Trump supporters that you have identified.
Here is a real set of numbers: People trusted Trump to handle immigration over Harris by 53% to 44% (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Issue_questions). And people knew exactly who Trump was, what his immigration policies were, what he thought of immigrants from "shit-hole" countries, and how he dehumanized Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio.
We should support Mahmoud Khalil as a free speech issue, not as an immigration issue. We should protest the disappearance and abuse of prisoners shipped off to El Salvador as a due process and cruelty issue, not as an immigration issue.
Elections have consequences. The American people have spoken, and they want far less immigration. Even immigrants want less immigration. We have far more important things to worry about and fight for, rather than getting sucked into the vortex of immigrant activists and their demonstrations.
Yes, the problem of “unchecked immigration” and immigrants somehow ruining our country are fake problems ginned up the MAGAts and as such should be nearer the bottom of the Dems agenda. *But* the concerns about illegally rounding up and deporting people, terrorizing people at the border and just ignoring the Constitution are hugely concerning and should be at the top of EVERYBODY’S list.
I agree, but the nuance will go completely over the heads of most Americans (i.e. violations of the 1st amendment protection of the freedom of speech, and the 5th and 14th amendments which provide due process). For most Americans, this will be yet another example of "Democrats are for They/Them".
The American people voted to have less immigration, legal or illegal. That's their right. Even the immigrant communities support restrictions. There is little to be gained by fighting this battle.
You are throwing around speculative numbers which aren't backed by any scientific survey. And I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the 2 subgroups of Trump supporters that you have identified.
Here is a real set of numbers: People trusted Trump to handle immigration over Harris by 53% to 44% (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Issue_questions). And people knew exactly who Trump was, what his immigration policies were, what he thought of immigrants from "shit-hole" countries, and how he dehumanized Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio.
We should support Mahmoud Khalil as a free speech issue, not as an immigration issue. We should protest the disappearance and abuse of prisoners shipped off to El Salvador as a due process and cruelty issue, not as an immigration issue.
Elections have consequences. The American people have spoken, and they want far less immigration. Even immigrants want less immigration. We have far more important things to worry about and fight for, rather than getting sucked into the vortex of immigrant activists and their demonstrations.