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Jared Polis and Bill Kristol: Live from Denver
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Jared Polis and Bill Kristol: Live from Denver

Gov. Jared Polis says Biden should focus on what he'll do for the American people in his campaign, rather than getting caught up in the crazy of Trump. Plus, guns, weed, the value of talking across party lines, and how Colorado is trying to avoid California's housing and growth problems. Tim Miller was live with Polis on Friday. And Bill Kristol joined Monday to discuss Trump's penchant for lying and to preview Tuesday's primaries.

Discussion about this episode

Great Pod, love Jared

Raining men, haven't heard it in years, love dancing around to it...at work no less...lol

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Polis is one of the deep bench of future Democrats along with Shapiro, Whitmer, Wes Moore, Buttigeig, Pritzger. To which I'll also add Colin Aldred and John Avlon .

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Regarding that person who called Trump,maybe "He was stuck in Lodi again" *CCR

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Let’s get him out for Biden asap… so moderate, calm and an effective communicator. And also thanks for expanding my life Tim with gay anthems.

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JVL, I don’t get why you keep drowning us in your fait accomplit pessimism. What does that solve? You all criticize Democrats for hand-wringing, or low energy, or insufficient intensity, but then tell us twice a week it’s hopeless. You ignore any signal feed that cuts against that narrative. Why subscribe/listen if the fight is already over and the bad guys have already won? I’ll just pack my bags and head to Europe.

Also, you lament the double standard that allows Trump to escape accountability and scrutiny and then say he did “great” on a podcast in which he didn’t cannibalize the hosts. You are perpetuating the very double standard you complain about. I don’t get it. It feels even more disappointing hearing this level of nihilism and hopelessness from someone I respect and trust. What exactly is the point of this? I don’t get it.

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And what will airports look like when he guts the federal government of competent government professionals?

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I really enjoyed this interview and find this Governor refreshing. Of course his song is one of my favorites❤️

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This was fantastic. I’m just picturing Gov Polis dancing in his office to “it’s raining men” a la Hugh Grant in Love Actually

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Enjoyed the interview—thanks!

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What a great discussion between Bulwark Podcast host Tim Miller and Colorado Governor Jared Polis. Fast-moving, witty, substantive and sometimes very funny, too. Thank you both.

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For a third person to smoke weed with, I'd go with Donald Sutherland's (rest in peace) character in Animal House.

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Who is MAGA comparing the US to? We're failing? Compared to who? Europe is struggling. China's economy is either struggling or on the verge of collapsing, depending on who you ask. Russia? Forget about it! Japan isn't too healthy, getting better but still not doing great. Canada? Mexico? Brazil? Can someone tell me what country or region's economy is doing better than the US?

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Thank you, governor. We're all allowed to call Taiwan a country. It is the Republic of China.

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Getting WAY to crude Tim🤨

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Dream blunt rotation. James Baldwin, Tom Waits, Gore Vidal. American geniuses.

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I like Pete too. More than like. I think he’s a superstar.

But he struggled to cut through in 2020, and, traditionally, aren’t governorships a more reliable path to POTUS than mayoralties and cabinet posts?

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I wish Pete were on track to become president, but he's not. I can see him working his way up the cabinet ladder like George Shultz, eventually becoming Secretary of Defense.

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Absolutely concur.

Can see Pete being an increasingly important cabinet member in every D presidency for most of the rest of his life.

But not POTUS.

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That's a really good idea that Biden fly commercial to Atlanta for the debate and remind everyone that Trump never flies commercial and has no idea what percentage of flights are cancelled everyday. Might be a nightmare for the Secret Service but it would really shiv Trump and be a PR boon.

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Hey Tim, I appreciate your work and what you have done with the pod... you have brought on a wider array of guests and been open to hearing from basically anyone. The squad seems to be still a pretty fertile source of derision for the Bulwark staff and I am curious as to if you have asked one of these folks on to the podcast. I know you had Jasmine Crockett on but these squad folks who have been a source of jeering from the Bulwark staff for many years now, I would love to hear a substantive discussion on policy agreements and disagreements. I suspect the fiscally conservative bent of the Bulwark staff (the classic socially liberal fiscally conservative bent of the privileged) is the issue but again would love to see this fleshed out further. These folks seem to all think minimum wage should be raised, children shouldn't be in poverty in a country like America, women should have rights to their bodies, medical care should be free for all like all of the other western nations that we call allies, and higher education should be free. They all advise taxing the rich and corporations more like we use to in this country before Reagan. Feels like Reaganomics has clearly been destructive for the middle class and below and of course destroyed the unions but hey, I'm open to hearing an argument from both sides on that too. Anyway, I think hearing from more people of color who have different lived experiences from the vast, vast majority of people at the Bulwark would be helpful, just my two cents from a daily listener.

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Shit. Jared Polis. Are we listening to USA’s first gay president?

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I kinda like Pete too

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Pete and Polis or Polis and Pete; sounds like a pretty good candidates to run someday for President and VP.

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I normally watch you on YouTube because I wanna get those numbers up as high as possible so you guys get the money. I was so disappointed to miss you and Denver and just being able to hear my governor and you together was so important I came here. Love you guys.

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I wanna see Biden hang the 2025 project around Trump's neck and get Trump to disavow it.

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Apologies, last week got away from me and I didn’t update the playlist at Apple Music. Up to date now

https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/bulwark-pod-songs/pl.u-0embfxV15e

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Tim, JVL and Sarah put on a first rate show on Friday night! Colorado is really a home away from home for the Bulwark crew. Having Mona & Andrew there was the icing on the cake.

Both the live events & the YouTube addition to the website has been an amazing way to get new people interested. I live only 15 minutes from the venue on Friday but I heard while waiting in line there was one person who drove 3 hours and another that drove 4 hours to make it.

Congratulations on the continued success!

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