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Joe Tells Us What He Really Thinks About Trump
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Joe Tells Us What He Really Thinks About Trump

Also: How not to live and/or die with the polls over the next 9 months.
Jonathan V. Last
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Sarah Longwell
Feb 02, 2024
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Dark Brandan is done with your malarkey. (Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)

Sarah talks to high-information two-time Trump voters. JVL explains why he’s 💎🙌 Biden. They try to figure out a coping strategy for polling. And they delve into the secret world of monster truck DEI. It’s a big show!

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