While I found it extremely depressing, I think the focus on if it was "good" or not needs to come from what the film showed us, not what it didn't. The mismatch between Gaga & Phonenix, the darkness/ grey, and the fractured scenes that do not end in a climax, seem to indicate this is how Arthur's brain was experiencing life.
While I found it extremely depressing, I think the focus on if it was "good" or not needs to come from what the film showed us, not what it didn't. The mismatch between Gaga & Phonenix, the darkness/ grey, and the fractured scenes that do not end in a climax, seem to indicate this is how Arthur's brain was experiencing life.
As a fractured person, his fantasies never complete themselves, everything is grandiose (ex: having an incredibly talented singer in his corner singing just to him), because that is how he experiences life from inside his head.
This is much more about how the Joker experiences the world than how the world experiences the Joker.
I see it as a two hour peek into a psyche that fooled itself into thinking "the Joker" will somehow get away with it all and leave Arthur behind.
And the loneliness. If the first film was an allegory on the world in 2019, this is too, just how we experience it internally and the godawful loneliness so many people are experiencing.
While I found it extremely depressing, I think the focus on if it was "good" or not needs to come from what the film showed us, not what it didn't. The mismatch between Gaga & Phonenix, the darkness/ grey, and the fractured scenes that do not end in a climax, seem to indicate this is how Arthur's brain was experiencing life.
As a fractured person, his fantasies never complete themselves, everything is grandiose (ex: having an incredibly talented singer in his corner singing just to him), because that is how he experiences life from inside his head.
This is much more about how the Joker experiences the world than how the world experiences the Joker.
I see it as a two hour peek into a psyche that fooled itself into thinking "the Joker" will somehow get away with it all and leave Arthur behind.
And the loneliness. If the first film was an allegory on the world in 2019, this is too, just how we experience it internally and the godawful loneliness so many people are experiencing.