What scenario do you see them getting passed any sort of national referendum? If it turns out that the abortion issue was an illusion and Republicans gets 57 senate seats and a house majority by 40+ seats then sure. But we both know the abortion issue drive voters to the point where if the Republicans get all three chambers it will be na…
What scenario do you see them getting passed any sort of national referendum? If it turns out that the abortion issue was an illusion and Republicans gets 57 senate seats and a house majority by 40+ seats then sure. But we both know the abortion issue drive voters to the point where if the Republicans get all three chambers it will be narrow without the votes to move forward.
Judges will be where they focus their attention as well as organizations they can fund through reconciliation which only requires the 50 vote threshold. There will never be 60 votes for national abortion bans in the senate. Numbers matter and it's still a numbers game. For the same reasons Democrats talk about gun buyback programs & banning "assault weapons" but we all know it's messaging that will never turn into passing legislation.
It’s not clear to me that if they use the Project 2025 plan that they won’t enact a national abortion ban by executive order. If they get in, I don’t think we can count on them respecting legislative authority or anything else.
No one is talking about any abortion ban federally. Project 2025 makes vague reference to keeping the pill that is already under review banned from being mailed and only allowed to be prescribed in person.
Trump isn’t gonna do any of that because it doesn’t serve his purposes. His base doesn’t care about banning abortion. Trump is content to throw them under the bus anytime he wants.
I think you are underestimating their fixation on controlling women’s reproductive choices. See JD Vance. What you blithely describe about their plans for mifepristone is a draconian attack on women’s reproductive health. The guy who headed up Project 2025 and was Trump’s director of OMB describes reproductive choice as a “snake” strangling the American family and says (in writing) that having children should not be an individual choice but a societal expectation. Attacking women’s rights is a hallmark of authoritarian governments. These are the people who will make up the senior ranks of his administration. And since they plan on this next election being the last one and on investing the president with massive powers, Trump will not have to care about what women think.
I actually think it's the opposite. As we approach election time these boards are filled with the craziest conspiracies about things the Republicans will do when they don't and won't have the vehicle to do it.
What I said is that they will move away from Amy Coney Barrett quality judges and put in more Aileen Cannon's. That is a realistic move that will on the aggregate have such a bigger effect than messaging legislation. They played the long game to overturn Roe. Within the first 6 months they will get to replace Thomas and Alito and have 5 young justices all appointed by Trump. We can only hope they match the credentials of his previous justices.
But it's the district courts that most of the laws are interpreted. Very few cases are weighed in on by the Supreme Court. And that's where Trump will have latitude to approve the judges that are unqualified as he did with a few back in his first term.
Project 2025 is a thinktank creation that may have some effect on the administration may have none. I personally think Trump won't pass his party to a bunch of fundamentalist idiots that he doesn't need anymore. But even if he does want to implement some of it the constraints he faces will make a national abortion ban under 25 or so weeks impossible.
Abortion falls under the filibuster. Republicans don't have 50 votes to abolish it now and won't following the election. Reconciliation has to be budget issues. So I assume you know this otherwise your statement would indicate a lack of knowledge of voting. If you think Trump is ditching the filibuster for abortion then that's insane. They would probably need to win all 9 senate races they are spending money on which is impossible they will be lucky to win 3 in which case they couldn't even reform the filibuster much the less get rid of it.
What scenario do you see them getting passed any sort of national referendum? If it turns out that the abortion issue was an illusion and Republicans gets 57 senate seats and a house majority by 40+ seats then sure. But we both know the abortion issue drive voters to the point where if the Republicans get all three chambers it will be narrow without the votes to move forward.
Judges will be where they focus their attention as well as organizations they can fund through reconciliation which only requires the 50 vote threshold. There will never be 60 votes for national abortion bans in the senate. Numbers matter and it's still a numbers game. For the same reasons Democrats talk about gun buyback programs & banning "assault weapons" but we all know it's messaging that will never turn into passing legislation.
It’s not clear to me that if they use the Project 2025 plan that they won’t enact a national abortion ban by executive order. If they get in, I don’t think we can count on them respecting legislative authority or anything else.
No one is talking about any abortion ban federally. Project 2025 makes vague reference to keeping the pill that is already under review banned from being mailed and only allowed to be prescribed in person.
Trump isn’t gonna do any of that because it doesn’t serve his purposes. His base doesn’t care about banning abortion. Trump is content to throw them under the bus anytime he wants.
How do you know his base doesn't care about banning abortion? That is news to me.
Trump would ban abortion just to own the libs.
I think you are underestimating their fixation on controlling women’s reproductive choices. See JD Vance. What you blithely describe about their plans for mifepristone is a draconian attack on women’s reproductive health. The guy who headed up Project 2025 and was Trump’s director of OMB describes reproductive choice as a “snake” strangling the American family and says (in writing) that having children should not be an individual choice but a societal expectation. Attacking women’s rights is a hallmark of authoritarian governments. These are the people who will make up the senior ranks of his administration. And since they plan on this next election being the last one and on investing the president with massive powers, Trump will not have to care about what women think.
I actually think it's the opposite. As we approach election time these boards are filled with the craziest conspiracies about things the Republicans will do when they don't and won't have the vehicle to do it.
What I said is that they will move away from Amy Coney Barrett quality judges and put in more Aileen Cannon's. That is a realistic move that will on the aggregate have such a bigger effect than messaging legislation. They played the long game to overturn Roe. Within the first 6 months they will get to replace Thomas and Alito and have 5 young justices all appointed by Trump. We can only hope they match the credentials of his previous justices.
But it's the district courts that most of the laws are interpreted. Very few cases are weighed in on by the Supreme Court. And that's where Trump will have latitude to approve the judges that are unqualified as he did with a few back in his first term.
Project 2025 is a thinktank creation that may have some effect on the administration may have none. I personally think Trump won't pass his party to a bunch of fundamentalist idiots that he doesn't need anymore. But even if he does want to implement some of it the constraints he faces will make a national abortion ban under 25 or so weeks impossible.
They don't need 60 votes in the senate to ban abortion. Only 51.
Abortion falls under the filibuster. Republicans don't have 50 votes to abolish it now and won't following the election. Reconciliation has to be budget issues. So I assume you know this otherwise your statement would indicate a lack of knowledge of voting. If you think Trump is ditching the filibuster for abortion then that's insane. They would probably need to win all 9 senate races they are spending money on which is impossible they will be lucky to win 3 in which case they couldn't even reform the filibuster much the less get rid of it.