Politics have always been, well, Politics…. I do not know what to call the events at this time???? Really sad and really scary…. I realize as I write this…. ‘Propaganda’ doesn’t quite work either…. Tearing this country apart with “rhetoric” and with very frightening threats and promises and restrictions…. The “media” is a “loose cannon” and AI and our dependance on “phones”…. Yowza!… However, in the midst of all of this…. “WE the People, ARE WE the People! WE ARE!!!
"Rikki Don't Lose that Number" came out in 1974, so it's good to know Ms. Barber, who was born eight years later, still grew up to become a Steely Dan fan.
It's also possible, isn't it, that Democratic voters in South Carolina have figured out that Donald Trump, who grows more execreble every day, is by far the weakest possible challenger the Republicans can produce, so why do anything that might slow that down?
In my neighborhood and surrounding area in SC, so far, the only yard & street signs I've seen are for Haley. Not suggesting she'll 'shock the world' but there are people who have been signaling for a while they'll back her. I'm pulling the lever for her in the primary *strictly* as an Eff-you to trump. It'll be Biden in the general.
She was my governor for six years and wasn’t horrible—well above average for a Republican governor of a Southern state. She’s one of two Republicans to not “bend the knee” yet remain in the tent—hard to find Mitch McConnell admirable but these are strange times.
Will she bend the knee when she drops out? I expect so. But it wouldn’t shock me if she didn’t.
Will I vote for her in the general if she somehow prevails over Trump? Not a chance. Unlike the editors of this fine publication, I washed my hands of the Republican Party at the state and federal level in 1992 after Pat Buchanan’s convention speech. I saw what the party had become well before most center-right thinkers.
I think you may be giving her too much credit. The two Republican candidates who refused to “bend the knee” were Asa Hutchinson and Chris Christie. Haley had no problem raising her hand when asked if she would endorse the Republican nominee even if he was a convicted felon. She never attacked Trump during any of the debates and her only criticism of him afterwards was that <somehow> “chaos followed him wherever he went”.
But as soon as Trump got personal and started calling her names and picking on her husband, all of a sudden she found some courage to fight back. Also, I think she’s given up on any ambition she may once have had of being tapped for VP so really this is just theater for her 2028 bid - if we still have a country by that point.
Stuart Stevens made a great point about Haley in todays Resolute Square newsletter. Here is the beginning:
“Given that Nikki Haley had to consult with advisors before she could say that slavery was the cause of the Civil War, it should come as no surprise she is ending her failed campaign sounding painfully obvious racial dog whistles.
“A vote for Joe Biden is a vote for Kamala Harris, you know that, and I know that,” Haley said during an appearance on “Good Morning America” this week. “There is no way Joe Biden is going to finish his term. I think Kamala Harris is going to be the next president, and that should send a chill up every American’s spine.”
On hearing this, my first thought was that I hope the Secret Service is interviewing Nikki Haley, which is the usual course of action when someone predicts the imminent death of a healthy president. My second was that Nikki Haley, who has won two counties so far in her presidential campaign and is about to be clobbered in her home state, had decided to follow the path of so many South Carolina politicians in trying to scare white voters with the imaginary threat of an African American winning an election.”
The rest is even better because it looks at this situation through the lens of history and what other Presidents in much worse health conditions have done and how Harris compares to other VPs in this regard.
I guess I am at a loss as to why Kamala Harris as President should terrify me. The other option is the twice-impeached criminal, adulterer and a liar who openly claims he wants to install a for-life dictatorship in the United States.
This buffet of hard choices is killing me!
Can Nikki be more specific? WHY should we be afraid of Kamala Harris?
Every time I turn on TV news or read a blog, I hear even the most liberal commentators say "Why is Haley still running? She can't win, so shouldn't she drop out." Funny, I never heard those comments about Bernie Sanders, who was not even a Democrat. I won't try to guess why. First, this is America. At least until next January, she can do whatever she pleases. SC is the 3rd primary. It's the first half of the first quarter. She should be admired for her grit, not constantly trashed. In this election, so much can happen, and why shouldn't she hang in there to be a potential beneficiary. Trump could be indicted for a felony, and be sentenced. He could be interviewed by someone who might ask him a tough question, exposing definitively that he's not only a total imbecile, but an agent of a foreign government, discrediting the one advantage he claims - being mentally stronger and tougher than Biden. Perhaps the Dems still have a lot of dry powder that they are holding back on until near the election, such as intel on how and why Jared got $4 billion from the sheikhs, or payments that Trump. Inc got from Putin or his oligarchs, etc, etc. Politics is not like 5th grade sports, where games are stopped because one team is so far behind that adults think that their self respect will be permanently damaged. If she wants to keep running, and continues to lose, why should anyone care? Ignore her if it really bothers you. My suspicion is that the Media wants to get straight to Biden vs. Trump, which is where they believe that they can generate the big bucks.
I do plan to vote for Nikki in the GA primary (assuming she lasts that long) but the emails and texts have been relentless. I don't know why Republicans are so bad at this. Even your supporters don't want to get 57 texts and 143 campaign emails every single damn day. Just give it a rest already!
And as for the black Democrats in SC: don't come whining to us when Donald Trump gets reelected in November. You had a chance to stop him and didn't.
I get multiple texts from (supposedly) Donnie, Donnie Jr., Mike Johnson, random Republican candidates praising me for my many donations to Republicans.
I have never in my life given any of them a nickel.
I am not a Republican. I have never been a Republican and at this point I can safely say I will never be a Republican.
But the texts keep coming.
I report them as spam and they pop up from a new number.
You'd think they would have a better grifting strategy.
OMG the texts I have received over the years! Every Republican running for office has hit me up for money. And every single member of the Trump family has texted me personally! I have found that replying with extreme profanity has drastically reduced the quantity of messages.
The perceived reason why Dems or independents may be voting in the GOP primary is interesting. "growing the base", "expanding the party". Some, like me in my state, are switching to the GOP just so I can vote AGAINST Trump to try to keep him from amassing delegates. It has ZERO to do with supporting GOP policies.
"She didn’t really care about Black people before.” Dawson dismissed that last remark as unfair and pointed out that Haley, as governor in 2015, removed the Confederate flag from the state Capitol..."
Well, heck. She's got my vote now. My life is so much better!
Nikki Haley was governor fox six years, of the sixth-blackest state in the country. It is so telling that the first or only thing they can think of that she did 'for' black people is a symbolic act. There is no substantive policy addressed to the community, and also no argument that her overall policies were beneficial to black folks.
I agree. I appreciated all the comments that had been made. I better appreciate just how shallow and superficial she is. And she did not even show leadership in doing this symbolic act!
It’s definitely amusing that the people who know Haley best appear to hate her the most, but all this schadenfreude is about her anticipated trouncing by Mussolini, ffs.
She blew every opportunity she had and spent a lousy $2M on anti- Trump ads, is a total phony and has the principles and high moral convictions of an alley cat. But he’s still Mussolini. Anti-Trump South Carolinians should be moving mountains to keep her in the race through Super Tuesday, because she is la spina in Il Duce’s culo.
The disrespectful part of this is that she claims taking down the rebel flag as if it’s some really courageous act on her part. All of that while failing to mention that she didn’t take it down for years until she was basically forced to when black church goers were murdered.
That combined with her giving the same answer about the cause of the civil war she did back in the early 2010s which was lost cause propaganda..she’s got some audacity asking for black votes without any commitment to at least being never-Trump and i say that as a black voter who’d vote for her in the primary strategically
Yes, she was hesitant to take down the flag till she found it was good for the optics. You notice she didn’t even talk about it early on because she was hoping to bring some of Trump’s base to her. Which never happened. She thought it would be bad for her campaign. Then when she was forced to talk about slavery. She didn’t want to admit that’s why the civil war started. I doubt she gained any Afro- American support after that.
She does the bare minimum and expects the world to applaud her actions. It's like when a teenager cleans their room one time and then expects that to hold them over for the rest of time.
Couldn’t have said it better! I’ve come to grips that in many ways there’s a contingent of the US who are eligible voters who are located in the most advantageous places electorally who hold anti- liberal views and one of the two parties has chosen to make that group their base with no way of having checks and balances on their influence because that base would rather the country fall apart than not get their way…just like the confederacy
Politics have always been, well, Politics…. I do not know what to call the events at this time???? Really sad and really scary…. I realize as I write this…. ‘Propaganda’ doesn’t quite work either…. Tearing this country apart with “rhetoric” and with very frightening threats and promises and restrictions…. The “media” is a “loose cannon” and AI and our dependance on “phones”…. Yowza!… However, in the midst of all of this…. “WE the People, ARE WE the People! WE ARE!!!
Ominous foreshadowing of what's going to happen to Biden in November.
"Rikki Don't Lose that Number" came out in 1974, so it's good to know Ms. Barber, who was born eight years later, still grew up to become a Steely Dan fan.
It's also possible, isn't it, that Democratic voters in South Carolina have figured out that Donald Trump, who grows more execreble every day, is by far the weakest possible challenger the Republicans can produce, so why do anything that might slow that down?
In my neighborhood and surrounding area in SC, so far, the only yard & street signs I've seen are for Haley. Not suggesting she'll 'shock the world' but there are people who have been signaling for a while they'll back her. I'm pulling the lever for her in the primary *strictly* as an Eff-you to trump. It'll be Biden in the general.
Charelston Democrat here. Voting for Haley Saturday. As is my wife. Who knows?
I applaud your efforts to throw a spoke in the Orange Menace's wheel. Far better than sitting on your hands bewailing your fate.
Still, be aware Nikki Haley is weak in her convictions and will endorse Trump for President within a month.
She was my governor for six years and wasn’t horrible—well above average for a Republican governor of a Southern state. She’s one of two Republicans to not “bend the knee” yet remain in the tent—hard to find Mitch McConnell admirable but these are strange times.
Will she bend the knee when she drops out? I expect so. But it wouldn’t shock me if she didn’t.
Will I vote for her in the general if she somehow prevails over Trump? Not a chance. Unlike the editors of this fine publication, I washed my hands of the Republican Party at the state and federal level in 1992 after Pat Buchanan’s convention speech. I saw what the party had become well before most center-right thinkers.
I think you may be giving her too much credit. The two Republican candidates who refused to “bend the knee” were Asa Hutchinson and Chris Christie. Haley had no problem raising her hand when asked if she would endorse the Republican nominee even if he was a convicted felon. She never attacked Trump during any of the debates and her only criticism of him afterwards was that <somehow> “chaos followed him wherever he went”.
But as soon as Trump got personal and started calling her names and picking on her husband, all of a sudden she found some courage to fight back. Also, I think she’s given up on any ambition she may once have had of being tapped for VP so really this is just theater for her 2028 bid - if we still have a country by that point.
Does anyone think Nikki might keep running and running right into an independent bid for the Presidency?
Stuart Stevens made a great point about Haley in todays Resolute Square newsletter. Here is the beginning:
“Given that Nikki Haley had to consult with advisors before she could say that slavery was the cause of the Civil War, it should come as no surprise she is ending her failed campaign sounding painfully obvious racial dog whistles.
“A vote for Joe Biden is a vote for Kamala Harris, you know that, and I know that,” Haley said during an appearance on “Good Morning America” this week. “There is no way Joe Biden is going to finish his term. I think Kamala Harris is going to be the next president, and that should send a chill up every American’s spine.”
On hearing this, my first thought was that I hope the Secret Service is interviewing Nikki Haley, which is the usual course of action when someone predicts the imminent death of a healthy president. My second was that Nikki Haley, who has won two counties so far in her presidential campaign and is about to be clobbered in her home state, had decided to follow the path of so many South Carolina politicians in trying to scare white voters with the imaginary threat of an African American winning an election.”
The rest is even better because it looks at this situation through the lens of history and what other Presidents in much worse health conditions have done and how Harris compares to other VPs in this regard.
Here’s the link to the Resolute Square site: https://resolutesquare.com/
Thank you…. Whatever happened to “civility”?????
I guess I am at a loss as to why Kamala Harris as President should terrify me. The other option is the twice-impeached criminal, adulterer and a liar who openly claims he wants to install a for-life dictatorship in the United States.
This buffet of hard choices is killing me!
Can Nikki be more specific? WHY should we be afraid of Kamala Harris?
I think people whose hearing is attuned to canine frequencies already know the answer to that question ;)
Hilarious, given that South Carolina democratic black voters are the heart and soul of the party!
Yeah...seemed weird to me too. Maybe she’s not that familiar with the state? 🤷♀️
Mayor Pete says hello
Trump shared this piece today. Congrats all around! Equally newsworthy is this piece about the SC Democrat who IS voting for her and perhaps The Bulwark could issue a clarion call that if people do not want another Trump term, they should go do the same. https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4477288-why-this-south-carolina-democrat-will-vote-for-nikki-haley-in-the-primary/
Campaigns generally end when the money runs out. Which is a long way off for her. We'll see.
Hilarious that TFG linked to this article...
Every time I turn on TV news or read a blog, I hear even the most liberal commentators say "Why is Haley still running? She can't win, so shouldn't she drop out." Funny, I never heard those comments about Bernie Sanders, who was not even a Democrat. I won't try to guess why. First, this is America. At least until next January, she can do whatever she pleases. SC is the 3rd primary. It's the first half of the first quarter. She should be admired for her grit, not constantly trashed. In this election, so much can happen, and why shouldn't she hang in there to be a potential beneficiary. Trump could be indicted for a felony, and be sentenced. He could be interviewed by someone who might ask him a tough question, exposing definitively that he's not only a total imbecile, but an agent of a foreign government, discrediting the one advantage he claims - being mentally stronger and tougher than Biden. Perhaps the Dems still have a lot of dry powder that they are holding back on until near the election, such as intel on how and why Jared got $4 billion from the sheikhs, or payments that Trump. Inc got from Putin or his oligarchs, etc, etc. Politics is not like 5th grade sports, where games are stopped because one team is so far behind that adults think that their self respect will be permanently damaged. If she wants to keep running, and continues to lose, why should anyone care? Ignore her if it really bothers you. My suspicion is that the Media wants to get straight to Biden vs. Trump, which is where they believe that they can generate the big bucks.
I do plan to vote for Nikki in the GA primary (assuming she lasts that long) but the emails and texts have been relentless. I don't know why Republicans are so bad at this. Even your supporters don't want to get 57 texts and 143 campaign emails every single damn day. Just give it a rest already!
And as for the black Democrats in SC: don't come whining to us when Donald Trump gets reelected in November. You had a chance to stop him and didn't.
Republicans are very bad at this.
I get multiple texts from (supposedly) Donnie, Donnie Jr., Mike Johnson, random Republican candidates praising me for my many donations to Republicans.
I have never in my life given any of them a nickel.
I am not a Republican. I have never been a Republican and at this point I can safely say I will never be a Republican.
But the texts keep coming.
I report them as spam and they pop up from a new number.
You'd think they would have a better grifting strategy.
OMG the texts I have received over the years! Every Republican running for office has hit me up for money. And every single member of the Trump family has texted me personally! I have found that replying with extreme profanity has drastically reduced the quantity of messages.
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I’m thinking
The perceived reason why Dems or independents may be voting in the GOP primary is interesting. "growing the base", "expanding the party". Some, like me in my state, are switching to the GOP just so I can vote AGAINST Trump to try to keep him from amassing delegates. It has ZERO to do with supporting GOP policies.
"She didn’t really care about Black people before.” Dawson dismissed that last remark as unfair and pointed out that Haley, as governor in 2015, removed the Confederate flag from the state Capitol..."
Well, heck. She's got my vote now. My life is so much better!
Nikki Haley was governor fox six years, of the sixth-blackest state in the country. It is so telling that the first or only thing they can think of that she did 'for' black people is a symbolic act. There is no substantive policy addressed to the community, and also no argument that her overall policies were beneficial to black folks.
I agree. I appreciated all the comments that had been made. I better appreciate just how shallow and superficial she is. And she did not even show leadership in doing this symbolic act!
It’s definitely amusing that the people who know Haley best appear to hate her the most, but all this schadenfreude is about her anticipated trouncing by Mussolini, ffs.
She blew every opportunity she had and spent a lousy $2M on anti- Trump ads, is a total phony and has the principles and high moral convictions of an alley cat. But he’s still Mussolini. Anti-Trump South Carolinians should be moving mountains to keep her in the race through Super Tuesday, because she is la spina in Il Duce’s culo.
The disrespectful part of this is that she claims taking down the rebel flag as if it’s some really courageous act on her part. All of that while failing to mention that she didn’t take it down for years until she was basically forced to when black church goers were murdered.
That combined with her giving the same answer about the cause of the civil war she did back in the early 2010s which was lost cause propaganda..she’s got some audacity asking for black votes without any commitment to at least being never-Trump and i say that as a black voter who’d vote for her in the primary strategically
Yes, she was hesitant to take down the flag till she found it was good for the optics. You notice she didn’t even talk about it early on because she was hoping to bring some of Trump’s base to her. Which never happened. She thought it would be bad for her campaign. Then when she was forced to talk about slavery. She didn’t want to admit that’s why the civil war started. I doubt she gained any Afro- American support after that.
She does the bare minimum and expects the world to applaud her actions. It's like when a teenager cleans their room one time and then expects that to hold them over for the rest of time.
Couldn’t have said it better! I’ve come to grips that in many ways there’s a contingent of the US who are eligible voters who are located in the most advantageous places electorally who hold anti- liberal views and one of the two parties has chosen to make that group their base with no way of having checks and balances on their influence because that base would rather the country fall apart than not get their way…just like the confederacy