Share this postCopy linkFacebookEmailNotesMoreThe Secret PodcastMeet Beta Ron128Share this postCopy linkFacebookEmailNotesMore781×Preview0:00Current time: 0:00 / Total time: -22:53-22:53Audio playback is not supported on your browser. Please upgrade.Meet Beta RonDeSantis doesn't get the politics of dominance.Jonathan V. Last and Sarah LongwellMar 24, 2023∙ Paid128Share this postCopy linkFacebookEmailNotesMore78ShareSarah and JVL talk about Ron DeSantis’s not-really-a-pivot on Ukraine, what it says about his campaign, and what we’re learning about him as a political commodity.Also: Why do the anti-antis hate the Never Trumpers above all others?This post is for paid subscribersJoinAlready a paid subscriber? Sign inThe Secret PodcastAudioEach Friday best friends, Sarah Longwell and JVL, go off-leash and uncensored in this intimate podcast. Only for Bulwark+ members. Each Friday best friends, Sarah Longwell and JVL, go off-leash and uncensored in this intimate podcast. Only for Bulwark+ members. JoinListen onSubstack AppSpotifyRSS FeedAppears in episodeJonathan V. LastSarah LongwellRecent EpisodesAcross the UniverseMar 7 • Jonathan V. Last and Sarah LongwellWorse Than We FearedFeb 28 • Jonathan V. Last and Will SaletanThe Ballad of Barry ZuckerkornFeb 21 • Jonathan V. Last and Sarah LongwellThe Hero We NeedFeb 14 • Jonathan V. Last and Sarah LongwellFight ClubFeb 7 • Jonathan V. Last and Sarah LongwellAnatomy of a ScapegoatingJan 31 • Jonathan V. Last and Sarah LongwellCaptain EO'sJan 24 • Jonathan V. Last and William KristolEnd of an EraJan 17 • Jonathan V. Last and Sarah Longwell