I've said many times that I don't expect the 14th Amendment to work because life isn't that kind, but that doesn't mean I don't think it *should* work.
The cases being made for the application of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to Trump are very compelling. It really seems like some Olympic-level legal gymnastics are required to avoid the…
I've said many times that I don't expect the 14th Amendment to work because life isn't that kind, but that doesn't mean I don't think it *should* work.
The cases being made for the application of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to Trump are very compelling. It really seems like some Olympic-level legal gymnastics are required to avoid the obvious conclusion, based on the cases being made.
I don't understand the line of thought that, since taking out the biggest, baddest guy on the battlefield won't stop the war, we should just leave him be until we can take him on in a "real" fight. No! Take him out now and continue to fight the fight you were already going to have to fight! Yes, things will likely get ugly taking this path. But what path do we really expect *not* to be ugly anymore? Under what conditions - that don't endanger truth, justice, the rule of law, or the Constitution - does anyone expect Trump and MAGA not to escalate? Beating him in the general election certainly won't. It's been made clear that he will claim fraud and interference and is more than willing to instigate a J6 sequel. Trump winning, while it may defuse the near-term consequences from Trump and MAGA, means the longterm consequences will be even more dire. If Trump is on the ballot, we're all already in danger!
Short of the Republican party itself choosing not to nominate him, in which case he will destroy the whole party (therefore, they will nominate him), no scenario will pacify the unruly mob we seem destined to encounter.
We're playing the same game with Trump, MAGA, and the GOP that we're playing with Russia and Ukraine. In our relentless tip-toeing around various traps to avoid crossing a perceived red line, we're simply dragging out the conflict. If red lines are going to get crossed, it's because of what Trump, MAGA, and the GOP decide they want to do. It won't be because we crossed a line. They will do what they will do and any justification will be used as needed. Their actions are not dictated by a sense of fairness or justice or the law or right and wrong. They're just about their ends and how they can ultimately attain them. So far, intimidation seems to be a valid means towards their ends.
It's also true that trends fade. Because new things come along. 'In your face' racism at Walmart and in gated communities may just seem old hat one of these days-- not daring anymore and its targets just rolling their eyes, having heard it all, and seen it be horrible but real in so many videos. The Deep State, having never appeared to anybody in the flesh will lose its threatening quality, censorship of conservative voices!, Democrats as pedophiles, the secret strengths Sovereign Citizens COULD unleash but won't, and all the other GOP bs. will be embarrassing to them. They'll deny they said it.
It's because the case for the 14th Amendment against Trump is so clear and the cowardice towards using it so palpable that Judge Luttig and Professor Tribe wrote in their recent Atlantic article, as quoted by CREW:
Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election in part by inciting an attack on the Capitol "place him squarely within the ambit of the disqualification clause, and he is therefore ineligible to serve as president ever again. *The most pressing constitutional question facing our country at this moment, then, is whether we will abide by this clear command of the Fourteenth Amendment’s disqualification clause*."
I've said many times that I don't expect the 14th Amendment to work because life isn't that kind, but that doesn't mean I don't think it *should* work.
The cases being made for the application of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to Trump are very compelling. It really seems like some Olympic-level legal gymnastics are required to avoid the obvious conclusion, based on the cases being made.
I don't understand the line of thought that, since taking out the biggest, baddest guy on the battlefield won't stop the war, we should just leave him be until we can take him on in a "real" fight. No! Take him out now and continue to fight the fight you were already going to have to fight! Yes, things will likely get ugly taking this path. But what path do we really expect *not* to be ugly anymore? Under what conditions - that don't endanger truth, justice, the rule of law, or the Constitution - does anyone expect Trump and MAGA not to escalate? Beating him in the general election certainly won't. It's been made clear that he will claim fraud and interference and is more than willing to instigate a J6 sequel. Trump winning, while it may defuse the near-term consequences from Trump and MAGA, means the longterm consequences will be even more dire. If Trump is on the ballot, we're all already in danger!
Short of the Republican party itself choosing not to nominate him, in which case he will destroy the whole party (therefore, they will nominate him), no scenario will pacify the unruly mob we seem destined to encounter.
We're playing the same game with Trump, MAGA, and the GOP that we're playing with Russia and Ukraine. In our relentless tip-toeing around various traps to avoid crossing a perceived red line, we're simply dragging out the conflict. If red lines are going to get crossed, it's because of what Trump, MAGA, and the GOP decide they want to do. It won't be because we crossed a line. They will do what they will do and any justification will be used as needed. Their actions are not dictated by a sense of fairness or justice or the law or right and wrong. They're just about their ends and how they can ultimately attain them. So far, intimidation seems to be a valid means towards their ends.
It's also true that trends fade. Because new things come along. 'In your face' racism at Walmart and in gated communities may just seem old hat one of these days-- not daring anymore and its targets just rolling their eyes, having heard it all, and seen it be horrible but real in so many videos. The Deep State, having never appeared to anybody in the flesh will lose its threatening quality, censorship of conservative voices!, Democrats as pedophiles, the secret strengths Sovereign Citizens COULD unleash but won't, and all the other GOP bs. will be embarrassing to them. They'll deny they said it.
It's because the case for the 14th Amendment against Trump is so clear and the cowardice towards using it so palpable that Judge Luttig and Professor Tribe wrote in their recent Atlantic article, as quoted by CREW:
Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election in part by inciting an attack on the Capitol "place him squarely within the ambit of the disqualification clause, and he is therefore ineligible to serve as president ever again. *The most pressing constitutional question facing our country at this moment, then, is whether we will abide by this clear command of the Fourteenth Amendment’s disqualification clause*."
https://www.citizensforethics.org/news/analysis/legal-experts-across-the-ideological-spectrum-agree-the-14th-amendment-disqualifies-trump-from-holding-office/