“Trump’s leading in every single state,” Avila said. “I mean, the legit polls are showing that. I don’t think there's a contest. I’m not worried about it.”
I was going to joke "I'll have what she's having," but this level of delusion is beyond humor or mockery. It's just flabbergastingly ignorant.
One big thing being pushed on Twitter is the crypto betting market, Polymarket, which has Trump winning 60-40. Of course, this is not a poll, but many on the right are taking it that way (because they don't know the difference).
"The vibes have been consistently different with Democrats. At each event I’ve attended, they have either been cautiously optimistic or stressed to the point of trembling like a chihuahua on July 4th. "
Loving it, Joe - "trembling like a chihuahua on July 4th" 🤣💕😍 That beats the standard "bed-wetters" analogy by miles!
““You know, family values, religion, hard work, all these are things that go hand in hand with the Latino community,” he said. “But because every year they want to use us for their scapegoating, they push us harder and further to the left.””
Tangential observation: this ^^ is true for Maryland also. Our recent influx of immigrants comes from Latin America, but also West Africa. Very socially conservative, very family-oriented, very religious, very entrepreneurial. What does that sound like? But they’re not welcomed by the Republican Party. Why might that be?
Yes. But these values were not associated w/Ds — INCORRECTLY, I might add — but the R acknowledgement that “Ooo, Ds have reclaimed patriotism!” is marked (and obnoxious).
It also irks me much that D. Jerk Trump brings immigration as a failed action, when he himself tanked a bipartisan bill where all the current GOP RINOs got EVERYTHING they wanted, by calling his cronies in the Senate and demanding they fail the bill so he can run on it as a failure when he runs „for president“(read really runs away from prison).
MAGA asserts the immigration bill was a bad bill that did not give them everything they want so Trump and Johnson justifiably nixed it. Turns out they object to the part where asylum applications are expeditiously processed. They want all the applications expeditiously processed by denying them all immediately.
Indeed. He takes his cue from what The Bulwark guys justifiably call “The Networks of Lies”. Not to mention that he is the biggest liar of them all - Pathological Liar.
Joe-- you struck a nerve with me and captured the reality I find myself in living in deep red Montana. As a never Trump Republican, I voted for Evan McMullin as my candidate of choice in 2016 and in 2020 I actually bet several people including members of my own family that Joe Biden would beat DJT. In the process one of my friends paid off his bet to me but said we weren't friends anymore and completely cut off communication with me. It astounds me that people are so enamored with Trump and MAGA that you can't even carry on a rational conversation with them.
I've asked several people if they read the indictments that Jack Smith brought against DJT. Nope, no need to because it's all a scam to smear dear leader. My overall belief in the American people lends me to believe Kamala/Walz will win this election but I'm not overly confident that it will happen peacefully. And here's the thing-- just like all those who got caught up in the J6 uprising-- DJT will fan the flames and stoke the fears but he will not bear any of the consequences. Maybe that's what will be needed is for those now in prison to renounce the MAGA movement once they realize they are serving time at the behest of a man who doesn't give a damn about them.
Sid - I'm sad that the guy who paid off his bet decided to cut you off. I believe he needs to surround himself with more people like you. Like our next president says, we lift people up!
I take great comfort in knowing that, if Harris wins tonight, the machinery of criminal justice will snap back into action against the Convicted Felon, and there's nothing that he or his minions will be able do about it. Don't forget, he has his first sentencing scheduled for this month.
True enough and I believe he will be convicted on more counts but let’s be honest, he’ll never serve a day in jail. The best we can hope for is house arrest in Mar-a-largo with his lifetime secret service detail keeping an eye on him.
I just returned from a run to the store and saw this— Some joker is cruising Main Street in Bozeman pulling a trailer with a porta-potty spray painted to say "Harris/Walz Voting Booth". I'm sure he thinks it's hilarious. What a pompous asshole.
I lived in Yavapai County for 5 years and there were always the few oddball and conspiracy theorists there. Something must be in the water because those people are off their rockers. Steel yourselves for the lies about illegal immigrants voting for the loss Chump will suffer at the ballot box.
Please stop calling these ones, who left all their principles, values and moral code „ Republicans“. They are NOT. Hey are the REAL RINOs and CINOs (Conservatives in Name Only). They are the FAKE REPUBLICANS.
I agree. I've been saying it all along. The current Republican Party wants to punish the American people for electing Obama. Its now all about white people need to be first and we have to stop non whites from poisoning our country. Make America Great Again actually means Make America White Again.
After a decade of devotion, Republican and Trump are synonyms. I'm sorry but that's how language works. It doesn't stand still, it moves with the times.
That's right Kate. Perhaps one day, should they continue losing national elections (boy I hope it continues tonight) they can rename themselves the Whig party and try their luck with rebranding.
Will the Trump followers ever realize Trumps lies down the road if he wins? What would they need to see happen to realize that they have been lied to? And how long would that take?
Heidi - I sometimes think maybe they COULD learn if indeed they had to live under his authoritarian chaos. Like when a hurricane hits, and all FEMA employees have been fired and replaced with a few Musk/MAGA replacements. Or a listeria outbreak with no FDA to track down the source and issue warnings. Or the Medicare claims don't get paid.
But the rest of us (i.e., the majority of Americans) don't need those lessons. We're NOT going along for that ride. We're not going back.
They have known that Trump lies to them nearly the whole time. But they don't care as long as the part about wreaking vengeance on their political opponents and immigrants is not a lie.
Many, if not most know that they are being lied to. They do not care, they WANT to be lied to. It justifies their feelings and the actions that flow from them.
The MAGA movement has killed off the GOP and is feeding on its carcass. We must defeat Trump to begin the renewal process. And with millions of Americans getting their "news" from extreme MAGA/ rightwing "media" outlets, that renewal is likely to be very difficult.
After Joe's previous article about the lotería cards at Gallego's campaign rally, I will only refer to the failed gubernatorial and soon-to-be-failed senatorial candidate in Arizona as La Mentirosa.
Living well south of Yavapai County, I'm grateful to keep my distance from Andy Biggs & his fans. He's no conservative. Trumpist. MAGA. What they seek to pass off today as conservative. No coherent principles or values, no allegiance to the Constitution or to Arizona. So grateful our part of the desert has a bit more heart & sense. Maybe the spirit from the best of all the cultures living together down here.
Thank you, Joe, for this reporting, for helping to keep my eyes open.
Biggs is lost without Trump. It’s his meal ticket. Without Trump he is just another run of the mill right wing idiot. You can pick those off a tree. Maybe he can run off with the angry weather girl.
They do. I've seen chihuahuas on lists of the best guard dogs. They will let you know if there's someone in your yard or patio. I live on a senior golf course. Nomi lets me know if anyone - golfer, walker, or animal is out there. Comes in handy when the snowbirds are gone.
"a sizable chunk of the electorate exists in unclear relation to reality" - that's one way of putting it. Another way of putting it is that they are simply flat-Earthers.
As for the politicians like Biggs and Lake, like their cult leader, these people have no shame or sense of decency.
“Trump’s leading in every single state,” Avila said. “I mean, the legit polls are showing that. I don’t think there's a contest. I’m not worried about it.”
I was going to joke "I'll have what she's having," but this level of delusion is beyond humor or mockery. It's just flabbergastingly ignorant.
Ignorance is a large part of the MAGAs.
There must be some diagrams out there
One big thing being pushed on Twitter is the crypto betting market, Polymarket, which has Trump winning 60-40. Of course, this is not a poll, but many on the right are taking it that way (because they don't know the difference).
Don't do it: sounds like industrial strength hallucinogens.
Is peyote native to that area? Could explain it.
"You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." Harlan Ellison
fnord
It is simply too much of that Zombie-generating Kool-Aid. QED.
Joe, did you follow up with "Couldn't you n please exclaim how you know that Trump is leading in New York or Massachusetts?"
Appreciate you hanging out at the rally and taking MAGA abuse all night for our benefit.
"The vibes have been consistently different with Democrats. At each event I’ve attended, they have either been cautiously optimistic or stressed to the point of trembling like a chihuahua on July 4th. "
Loving it, Joe - "trembling like a chihuahua on July 4th" 🤣💕😍 That beats the standard "bed-wetters" analogy by miles!
I don't know, I feel more Corgi-esque personally. Perhaps even shaking like a basset hound. But a chihuahua? Eh, my cats might agree.
So, you finally out yourself as one of JD's cat-ladies, huh? 😏😏😏🥂
😂😂😂 "trembling like a chihuahua on July 4th"
Yeah, what's the rule? When retelling you have to mention the author the first time but not the second?
““You know, family values, religion, hard work, all these are things that go hand in hand with the Latino community,” he said. “But because every year they want to use us for their scapegoating, they push us harder and further to the left.””
Tangential observation: this ^^ is true for Maryland also. Our recent influx of immigrants comes from Latin America, but also West Africa. Very socially conservative, very family-oriented, very religious, very entrepreneurial. What does that sound like? But they’re not welcomed by the Republican Party. Why might that be?
Supporting/protecting family values, hard work, people's freedom of speech and religion -- all of those have a home in the Democratic Party.
Thank you.
Yes. But these values were not associated w/Ds — INCORRECTLY, I might add — but the R acknowledgement that “Ooo, Ds have reclaimed patriotism!” is marked (and obnoxious).
It also irks me much that D. Jerk Trump brings immigration as a failed action, when he himself tanked a bipartisan bill where all the current GOP RINOs got EVERYTHING they wanted, by calling his cronies in the Senate and demanding they fail the bill so he can run on it as a failure when he runs „for president“(read really runs away from prison).
MAGA asserts the immigration bill was a bad bill that did not give them everything they want so Trump and Johnson justifiably nixed it. Turns out they object to the part where asylum applications are expeditiously processed. They want all the applications expeditiously processed by denying them all immediately.
This is the flood the zone with bullshit strategy.
And the gotcha-by-the-balls strongman caudillo.
Mafia syle.
Indeed. He takes his cue from what The Bulwark guys justifiably call “The Networks of Lies”. Not to mention that he is the biggest liar of them all - Pathological Liar.
Shamelessness has gone a long way.
The question people have to ask is who are they? Do they represent you?
Look hard. Shysters are afoot.
Joe-- you struck a nerve with me and captured the reality I find myself in living in deep red Montana. As a never Trump Republican, I voted for Evan McMullin as my candidate of choice in 2016 and in 2020 I actually bet several people including members of my own family that Joe Biden would beat DJT. In the process one of my friends paid off his bet to me but said we weren't friends anymore and completely cut off communication with me. It astounds me that people are so enamored with Trump and MAGA that you can't even carry on a rational conversation with them.
I've asked several people if they read the indictments that Jack Smith brought against DJT. Nope, no need to because it's all a scam to smear dear leader. My overall belief in the American people lends me to believe Kamala/Walz will win this election but I'm not overly confident that it will happen peacefully. And here's the thing-- just like all those who got caught up in the J6 uprising-- DJT will fan the flames and stoke the fears but he will not bear any of the consequences. Maybe that's what will be needed is for those now in prison to renounce the MAGA movement once they realize they are serving time at the behest of a man who doesn't give a damn about them.
Sid - I'm sad that the guy who paid off his bet decided to cut you off. I believe he needs to surround himself with more people like you. Like our next president says, we lift people up!
I take great comfort in knowing that, if Harris wins tonight, the machinery of criminal justice will snap back into action against the Convicted Felon, and there's nothing that he or his minions will be able do about it. Don't forget, he has his first sentencing scheduled for this month.
True enough and I believe he will be convicted on more counts but let’s be honest, he’ll never serve a day in jail. The best we can hope for is house arrest in Mar-a-largo with his lifetime secret service detail keeping an eye on him.
Precisely, exactly three weeks from today.
"you can't even carry on a rational conversation with them". Your adjective explains it all. One can not expect rationality from irrational sources.
Something to watch for:
A sense of resignation. Yeah, it was stolen and there's nothing we can do about it. No, I'm not going to go riot. The fix is in and that's it.
Your words in MAGA ears.
We can only hope!
I just returned from a run to the store and saw this— Some joker is cruising Main Street in Bozeman pulling a trailer with a porta-potty spray painted to say "Harris/Walz Voting Booth". I'm sure he thinks it's hilarious. What a pompous asshole.
I lived in Yavapai County for 5 years and there were always the few oddball and conspiracy theorists there. Something must be in the water because those people are off their rockers. Steel yourselves for the lies about illegal immigrants voting for the loss Chump will suffer at the ballot box.
Please stop calling these ones, who left all their principles, values and moral code „ Republicans“. They are NOT. Hey are the REAL RINOs and CINOs (Conservatives in Name Only). They are the FAKE REPUBLICANS.
I agree. I've been saying it all along. The current Republican Party wants to punish the American people for electing Obama. Its now all about white people need to be first and we have to stop non whites from poisoning our country. Make America Great Again actually means Make America White Again.
Yet they can't get those white Americans to reproduce themselves. /s Must be because tanning those testicles as Tucker wants reduces fertility.
All over the world and in all times, a consequence of higher standards of living is reduced need to produce children.
If your theory of cause and effect is accurate, LET 'EM DO IT!
Haha. That's true. I never heard the bit about tanning your privates.
After a decade of devotion, Republican and Trump are synonyms. I'm sorry but that's how language works. It doesn't stand still, it moves with the times.
That's right Kate. Perhaps one day, should they continue losing national elections (boy I hope it continues tonight) they can rename themselves the Whig party and try their luck with rebranding.
O vote ‘No Nuthins’
Will the Trump followers ever realize Trumps lies down the road if he wins? What would they need to see happen to realize that they have been lied to? And how long would that take?
Heidi - I sometimes think maybe they COULD learn if indeed they had to live under his authoritarian chaos. Like when a hurricane hits, and all FEMA employees have been fired and replaced with a few Musk/MAGA replacements. Or a listeria outbreak with no FDA to track down the source and issue warnings. Or the Medicare claims don't get paid.
But the rest of us (i.e., the majority of Americans) don't need those lessons. We're NOT going along for that ride. We're not going back.
🙏🙏🙏🤞🍀🤞🍀🤞🍀🙏🙏🙏
They have known that Trump lies to them nearly the whole time. But they don't care as long as the part about wreaking vengeance on their political opponents and immigrants is not a lie.
I think most of them know it now.
But I could be WRONG
Many, if not most know that they are being lied to. They do not care, they WANT to be lied to. It justifies their feelings and the actions that flow from them.
The MAGA movement has killed off the GOP and is feeding on its carcass. We must defeat Trump to begin the renewal process. And with millions of Americans getting their "news" from extreme MAGA/ rightwing "media" outlets, that renewal is likely to be very difficult.
by renewal, you mean a reclaiming of the republican party?
Too late to reclaim. The Republicans didn't try to reclaim the Whigs, they started fresh. It's that time again.
After Joe's previous article about the lotería cards at Gallego's campaign rally, I will only refer to the failed gubernatorial and soon-to-be-failed senatorial candidate in Arizona as La Mentirosa.
¡si!
“Trembling like a chihuahua on July 4th” phrase is the new gold standard for political journalism
He never met my chihuahuas. The boys didn't tremble; they bit!
My chihuahua is quite a brave old gal and wants to bite any MAGA
Do you have the anti-venom injection she would need is she does?
So that means we can all just take it now, without attribution?
Or we have to mention Joe the first couple times and then it just becomes too burdensome...
That's the way unscrupulous people talk when they believe they are about to lose.
Yes. So much losing goes along with all that.
Living well south of Yavapai County, I'm grateful to keep my distance from Andy Biggs & his fans. He's no conservative. Trumpist. MAGA. What they seek to pass off today as conservative. No coherent principles or values, no allegiance to the Constitution or to Arizona. So grateful our part of the desert has a bit more heart & sense. Maybe the spirit from the best of all the cultures living together down here.
Thank you, Joe, for this reporting, for helping to keep my eyes open.
Biggs is lost without Trump. It’s his meal ticket. Without Trump he is just another run of the mill right wing idiot. You can pick those off a tree. Maybe he can run off with the angry weather girl.
As a chihuahua owner, beware those trembling chihuahuas. If angered, they will bite and they will draw blood.
sounds like they come in handy on occasion
They do. I've seen chihuahuas on lists of the best guard dogs. They will let you know if there's someone in your yard or patio. I live on a senior golf course. Nomi lets me know if anyone - golfer, walker, or animal is out there. Comes in handy when the snowbirds are gone.
Another good piece exemplifying why The Bulwark is so cool. Not only Arizona and Pennsylvania, but Yukio Mishima and Ptolemy! Thanks, Joe.
"a sizable chunk of the electorate exists in unclear relation to reality" - that's one way of putting it. Another way of putting it is that they are simply flat-Earthers.
As for the politicians like Biggs and Lake, like their cult leader, these people have no shame or sense of decency.
That cryptic hint about the numbers of disenchanted Republicans ?😳
I know a couple. Sure hope there's lots more