Jonathan V. Last and Andrew Egger react to President Donald Trump and El Salvador President Nayib Bukele meeting at the White House.
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Concerning your comments about "what about the American people?" why don't you look closely at the generic no nuance questions these poles are asking. Because if you ask the right concrete questions you'll get a true read of the American people: the majority of whom do NOT like or want how immigration policy (what a joke) is being carried out.
I was pissed - not one reporter corrected Bukele in real time, that the prisoner is not a terrorist and he wouldn’t be smuggling him back into the US - but doing what Trump and our Supreme court told him (indirectly) to do! The press needs to call BS as it happens even if it means a shouting match with Steven Miller.
Sorry JVL but the Supreme Court cannot wait 20 months until the environment is better to stand UP TO TRUMP. If we have learned anything it is that Trump will always take more, dig deeper, and there is no bottom. The Supreme Court must clarify their position, put some parameters on Trump and then we have to work on the legislature to grow a backbone. May not be possible, but waiting or giving in is a sure fire way to lose our democracy.
Ring the bell! Music can help us wake up. Take a beat and listen to Money Mark's song- Ring the bell. It should be a theme song for the show. Right along with Rebecca "take us home". We are in a visceral moment intended to confuse us. We need to feel the dirt beneath our feet. Know that we belong where we stand. We don't need to second guess the going along with chaos. We need to feel what we know. Emma Goldman said: you only know something when you feel it.
Trump pardoned a whole slew of " homegrowns". Why isn't anyone in the corporate media pointing that out?
If, in order to postpone a confrontation, the court says the administration abided by their order when no such thing happened, wouldn't this potentially only embolden Trump for future showdowns? Seems to me that Trump (and the rest) could plausibly read the court acting in this way as a sort of tacit deal between the court and the administration.
The wanton cruelty and callousness they show makes it so disgusting.
Trump's cold look when he remarked about the prison being a tough place was very chilling.
JVL, at the beginning of your most recent Triad column you asked five questions with regard to whatever contract there actually is with the fellow dictatorship of El Salvador. These seem to me to be crucial questions that absolutely need answers. How does anyone get answers?? Every question is SO important; has anyone answered them anywhere?
Does 34 felonies make someone a homegrown criminal? Asking for a friend.....
Unfortunately, I think that Roberts has a relatively easy out if he chooses to take the route that JVL suggests to give Trump a pass on this one. He can say that what the Administration did was wrong and that ICE deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia illegally, but because he is a Salvadoran citizen the Court can grant no relief, inasmuch as it cannot require the United States Government to demand that the government of El Salvador surrender a Salvadoran citizen who's on Salvadoran soil. This would be cowardly and amoral. but I bet that it would be legal. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way it goes.
Cue up the Venezuelan makeup artist and try again ASAP.
The government will never bring any of those poor people back because they would go to the press and all the cruelty will be exposed and the government can't have that. This government will have its comeuppance and should all be sent to their overseas prison by the Court of Human Rights.
Trump doesn’t have the ingenuity to think up the El Salvador scheme. It was most likely Miller.
As far as stopping this madness. it is possible that if one or more of the attorneys representing people who are being held for deportation asked a court for an injunction forbidding the government to send ANYONE to be imprisoned outside the country until the question of whether such action is legal is settled, at least one of the circuit judges would grant it. Since both the US and Salvadoran governments claim once someone is transferred neither country can undo it, allowing people to be removed from the US to a foreign prison is an obvious denial of due process since an error can not be rectified.
We are the human rights abusers we used to condemn. If SCOTUS backs down we're not the country i grew up in.
I think we are already there. I am seriously considering rescinding my American citizenship
re: corners - how about Musk &co stealing data not just for their AI development but for control (a la "Person of Interest" but with idiotic AI instead of ultra-intelligent AI? Carole Cadwalladr gave a ted talk last week that covers some of it: "the entire business model of silicon valley is surveillance .... we are already living inside the architecture of totalitarianism.... we now have to start acting as if we live in East Germany and instagram is the Stasi"
The fact that Trump is paying the El Salvadoran government to jail these men gives the lie to this whole thing. If he is paying them, then clearly he contracted with them for a service. That means he *has* the power to "break the contract" so to speak.
I find it completely outrageous that any judge would even entertain the administration's arguments that there is nothing they can do about this. It seems wholly self-evident that they are breaking the law and lying (aka committing perjury) and yet still, STILL the legal system acts like this is somehow perfectly normal. I think that when this makes it back up to SCOTUS, if John Roberts somehow beats a tactical retreat and gives the government another pass by making a semantics argument, then he and the members of SCOTUS who back him are no better than Trump, and no less in violation of the Constitution than Trump and the administration are. We the voters have no power at this point - SCOTUS needs to do the right thing - REQUIRE, IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, THAT NOT JUST ABREGO GARCIA, BUT *ALL* OF THOSE MEN BE RETURNED IMMEDIATELY IF NOT SOONER TO AMERICAN SOIL AND GIVE THEM ALL THEIR DUE PROCESS!
I wonder if anybody is talking to the military about staging a coup on behalf of the rest of us? Don't want to see it come to that, but we need to get this over with sooner rather than later, while our country still has a soul to save.
I don't get why you're point isn't brought up more, it's not a political issue it's a business one.
Not in favor of a coup, though. Did you hear that, ICE?
I just spent 90 minutes talking to a Ukrainian colleague.
His contract is up with our company and he's joining Amazon. He stated, on a team call on Monday, when introducing himself to a new hire, that he would be leaving Spain for the US soon under the new contract. I was overcome with concern, but had to wait for the meeting to end before I could say anything.
I messaged him and he expressed surprise that I was suggesting it was risky to come to the US. He admitted he hasn't payed close attention to US politics. We agreed to speak this afternoon and he was totally unaware of the risks of being an immigrant entering the US, or even just existing here. He kept trying to find the explanation for why what's happening wouldn't apply to him and I would just tell him about someone else who was violated in the way he was describing made him safe. He said his visa through Amazon would help protect him because of their investment in him. I assured him that, while that may provide him some protection from targeting, there's literally nothing that protects any of us anymore.
Unfortunately, it seems he leaves in 2 weeks and doesn't really have other options. We discussed wiping/reformatting any computers or phones, or just getting new ones altogether. Being Ukrainian, he doesn't share a lot on social media anyway, so he's not worried about that. I did advise him to 1) contact Amazon and ask what plans do they have to protect him entering and staying in the US (if any); and 2) establish some sort of plan to maintain regular check-ins with someone who will begin searching for him should they not hear from him after an allotted amount of time.
I told him I wished I was wrong. I wished I'd gone crazy and things were not how I described. But I'm not wrong and they are that way. It's crystal clear.
My wife and I plan to travel back to the lower 48 from AK this summer. If so (assuming we make it through the US border; only half kidding) we may get to meet up in Seattle after working remotely together all this time.
He did make me laugh, though, when we were discussing how people are here. He said he's a social person, but wasn't sure what to expect of Americans. I explained that we've got it all here, so there'll be plenty of friends, but there will also be people less friendly to him because he's an immigrant; maybe even because he's Ukrainian. He just responded in the most deadpan and sincere manner, "Well, I'm Ukrainian. We don't trust each other." I couldn't help but burst out a laugh and congratulate him on being one step ahead. As a Ukrainian, he's culturally much more prepared for where we're going than we are.
Jesus, be mindful of The Oath-Breaking SoB's current expansion of the "criminals" he has in mind for expulsion to El Salvador: US citizens such as Chris Krebs.
Impeachment is the answer.
It may not be the "practical" or "pragmatic" answer, but it is the answer.
We are inching towards violent civil conflict.
I know of a lot of Republicans and Trump voters who've changed their minds. They voted as they did because they thought this was an election like any other and they didnt understand his psychopathology and anger.
It's my view that a powerful message to former Trump supporters should be a call to action: unite with us to support democracy. Business as usual is not an option for our country. The foundation needs some repair---and we're calling all patriots. We need to join forces with Republicans and Independents. Democrats will hopefully take the lead---but we need to hear the concerns of the other side as well. Strive for a healthy middle ground. That's where America needs to go next: for a blending of ideas that avoids the extremes.
Ok.... That was depressing and you can't make lemonade out of these lemons. I am truly horrified. Guess the one good thing is I can be even more grateful I am 🇨🇦. My heart breaks for everyone who voted Dem.
Are you in need of any"long lost relatives"?
We won't have another free and fair election if the Supreme Court and other powers-that-be, and the American public, don't stand up to this crooked administration. It's not going to happen! Think about all the data DOGE collected. Think about Trump's power everywhere. Democracy can't hold on until 2026.
I probably shouldn't have listened to this... I want to vomit because JVL has once again channeled my hopelessness. It is too heavy. This is nothing I could have ever envisioned.
What else we are not seeing is my nightmare scenario. We are dealing with very devious and evil people who have connections to the sleazy side of life around the globe. Very frightening.
Sovereignty matters when it's a fellow autocrat but when it comes to say Canada or Greenland or Ukraine then those countries are just out of luck, it's so sad and terrifying to see the hypocrisy play out in real time.
Guys, check out Strict Scrutiny. They say there is more to the ruling than the 9-0 suggests.
Will this even go back to the Supreme Court?
District Judge Paula Xinis will eventually call bullshit on the DOJ, and find the Administration in contempt. The Administration will simply ignore the contempt ruling, like they are ignoring the SCOTUS ruling. They don't even have to appeal back to SCOTUS.
I suppose the attorneys for Kilmar Abrego Garcia could appeal to SCOTUS for relief. But SCOTUS may refuse to hear the appeal, saying that they have made their ruling, nothing has changed, so they can't do anything more.
Meanwhile, the American people will ignore all this. Because Garcia is just an immigrant, an alleged terrorist at that. This doesn't affect them. Maybe if an attractive White woman was kidnapped to El Salvador, there would be wall-to-wall 24/7 coverage on cable news. Otherwise, who cares.
I’m curious what the privatization of prisons people think about losing all that money to El Salvador? Haven’t they been all happy about the prospect of building new “beautiful” prisons here?
Hi there. Formerly a constitutional lawyer and Board Certified in Civil Appellate Law by our state board of legal specialization, I predict that SCOTUS will refuse to hear further appeals of Gulag cases until:
1. evidence and legal arguments are fully developed, heard and ruled upon by the district (trial) court and disposed of in final, appealable judgments;
2. judgements are appealed to, reviewed by, and decided by Courts of Appeals; and
3. appeals are properly filed in SCOTUS on its normal docket.
This could take years but would avoid additional conflict with the regime over deportations until after the 2026 election. If 2026 voters approve of what is happening or elections are fundamentally disrupted (such as by disenfranchising tens of millions of voters through the ironically dubbed SAVE Act), SCOTUS will not risk ruling against the powers that be. Beneath black robes are deportable human beings, and they know it.
Im not surprised at all …. Before the election my thinking after reading project 2025 the next thing he would do is set up re-education camps, but not in another country….
It's not about hating what JVL has to say, and someone better read him the comments. The court must speak the truth. The administration was asked to facilitate; what happened in the oval office was anything but. There will be no better time.
April 14, 2025 is the day America died. I keep thinking of the tune American pie Different subject but same sentiment.
All that is left is a complete revolution. A revolution that removes the entirety of the current regime and starts over with new elections. Just getting rid of Trump means that we wind up with Vance and that's wose. There is no point in even thinking about midterm elections. They will not be fair and Trump will run over the courts.
https://open.spotify.com/track/6vb1E9HQ9V0vqxUaiGmgej
I think there are a lot of people who just don't understand the stakes, who are so busy with their own lives, they don't hear the bell. So keep ringing the bell, Andrew. Eventually more folks will hear you.
I actually think that JVLs take on the SC would be smart. The last thing we need is for Trump to barrel through the sheet of tissue paper holding the republic together.
Holding out hope for America. But no blinders on thanks to you keeping us informed. I still believe there are more of us than them. But we are certainly into scarier times with Trumps unconstitutional denial of the courts.
Here is what I think of my fellow Americans as a group: we have failed the civics test. I don't think that makes them monsters who want people in concentration camps, I think it shows they are asleep and letting the monsters run amok. I would say there is no excuse for it, since the literacy rate is 80% (okay, that's lower than I expected when I just checked, but still) and information is literally free. But they don't hear, they don't see, they aren't listening, and too many of those who are paying some attention are listening to really bad, disingenuous messages. The only reason I think there might be an excuse here is that the our brains, in general, just aren't up to the flood of information. Bannon's strategy is really effective.
One of my favorite YT channels, Belle of the Fifth Column -- used to be Beau -- says frequently that American citizenship is "advanced civics," or something like that. We are not a nation of people taking that responsibility on. I don't know for sure that we have the capacity to do so with just our brains. I think it might also take our bodies, too, to wake up the whole public. That's ... pretty scary.
We need to restore basic civics before we can move on to advanced civics.
Don't buy the 'buying time' argument, JVL. Once you rationalize, now just isn't the right time, you can rationalize it the next time, too. As far as post-2026 midterms, there are a number of assumptions there which may or may not occur. Don't decide now to not do X because it's possible that in the future there might be a better time to take that action.
JVL, you are dead wrong. Capitulation NEVER makes autocracy better. The Court has already given Trump way too much power and caused this mess. Ceding more will NOT improve a thing.
Listen, before I stick my head in an oven I'll go down fighting this crap. I'm a first Gen immigrant - honestly forget that most of the time because I'm older and was brought here as an infant. I've heard stories of our family losing everything because of an election and it boggles my mind people don't realize how LUCKY they are to be born here and have the right to vote etc!
I'm naturalized and decided to become a citizen as soon as I could (18) so I could VOTE!
Never in my wildest dreams did I think that my wife and I would have the conversation that maybe it's not a good idea for us (me) to travel out of the country right now but here we are. We need EVERYONE to stand up to this. If people just shrug we are screwed and it will all go down the drain.
I'm not sure everyone would complain afterwards.
I think most of this is not Trump's ideas, it's all the people he's surrounded by this time. I'm sure it's just "I like that, sounds great, sureakevit happen"
Right there with you - brought here by my parents at age 4 and took the oath of citizenship myself at 18. Those people in the oval office have broken their oaths. I will not.
Thinking about the tiny hair that dems lost the House by in 2024. Close seats in CA, WA, PA, AK, etc. We'd still be hurting, but it would look A LOT less scary if dems had control of the House. It was just a few thousand voters (or non voters) here and there around the country who ultimately contributed to this crisis. What would it take to get enough people to pay attention, understand, and care? Would it be more clear to low-info voters if people were being disappeared to North Korea instead? We need to make more noise.
Odd how we don't mind interfering in the internal affairs of Greenland (Denmark) and Canada.
Hate!
Our oven is electric....
I am sick to death of everyone pretending that Trump is not defying the Courts, including the Supreme Court. This is the most obvious case of “Emperor wearing no clothes” and we keep insisting he is because no sane person wants to admit and face the truth. But the truth is HERE! We have ONE MAN RULE. PERIOD. And the sooner we act on that the better. We need to stop this ridiculous pretending.
Trump is going to use the military against American citizens.
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Failure to imagine….
Prediction: they declare the people torching Teslas to be "home grown terrorists" and then send them to CECOT as the first examples and that kicks off the precedent for sending AmCits to CECOT. Once they are out of American airspace there's nothing the courts can do.
They need to give us proof of life. There is no reason for this administration to violate the order unless they can’t “effectuate” his release is because he’s dead!
Wrong. There are plenty of reasons for Trump and Bukele to resist the courts' orders. Trump is at war with the courts, trying to neuter their authority, so defying the courts is an end in itself. Bukele has every incentive to maintain the reputation of CECOT as a place where prisoners go in and are never seen or heard from again.
A Congressional delegation must go to El Salvador and insist on proof of life.
Is everyone here confident that the Democrats will win the house in two years? Trump is already making noises about changing the voting machines. How confident is everyone that it’s going to be a fair election two years from now?
Looking at how other autocratic governments progressed, it took them several elections to take over the electoral apparatus well enough to rig elections. In Poland, the autocratic party lost an election before it could give itself permanent power. The Trump GOP is still in the early stages of learning to rig elections.
I’m confident there will NOT be free and fair elections. Look at North Carolina where they are literally throwing out votes in Democratic voting groups by changing the rules AFTER the election because the Democrat won. It’s happening NOW! And as usual, we aren’t doing ANYTHING but talk and post.
No one has polled me. If it were not for the protests, I would fall into a deep, dangerous depression. The protests are the good. Your followers are good. Mostly. I think. What Trump is doing is so Third Reich. And too many Americans are being Third Reich Germans. Trump needs to be stopped ASAP, or we'll just BE the FOURTH REICH.
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The GOP created this monster! They could have stopped Trump before he had absolute power. Instead, they were terrified of getting a negative tweet. Now, EVERYONE in the US has to worry that they too can be disappeared without recourse.
Tell me HOW this is different from Russia - except folks aren’t falling out of windows - yet!!!!
They could stop him now.
I understand your point academically/intellectually, JVL, but to your broader point, we are 3 months in and we are already here. I don't even want to think about what things look like after 20 more months of appeasement.
Yes! Roberts should take his stand now, not wait for the next Congress. Our leaders have all been waiting for someone else to take the lead against Trump since 2016. If SCOTUS draws a line here, it could embolden others to dig in and defend that line. But if SCOTUS backs down, Trump will keep going.
We should recall that Trump is a bully. Bullies back down ONLY when confronted with stalwart resistance. If they see no resistance, they keep going. It is impossible to appease a bully because there is no limit to his demands.
Yes! This is the time; if SCOTUS is going to do anything, they cannot wait. The government is clearly in violation of the court order from 2019 which was never challenged!!! Legally, this is the perfect case to take a stand on.
We will not make it to the midterms. I doubt we will make it to 6 months before falling to this dictator.
SCOTUS needs to stand and the military needs to back them up. Time will not help the resistance, because Drumpf and the legislature branch will take away the Supreme Court, via term limits or imprisonment. He does not allow those who oppose his will to walk around free. The National Guard needs to remove him from office, then his loyalists.
Yes. That is truly our only hope. And marching in the streets by the millions will signal to the Military that the people are behind them.
JVL, when we spoke in Phoenix I said that the immunity decision would now be the worst SCOTUS decision supplanting Dred Scott. I believe that in the current situation, SCOTUS will rule against the government and “order” the government to take action to get the person back. Trump will do nothing. Roberts will say that it is up to Congress and that SCOTUS has acted properly and there is nothing more for it to do. When Trump sends citizens to El Salvador, Roberts will not be bothered (at least publicly) by it.
I think the question of “why we are doing this” is important.
Ultimately we are doing this to find each other, validate each other, and give courage to each other to bear what will have to be borne.
I don’t like using military metaphors or comparisons except when thinking abut questions of strategy, especially right now. But we are in the midst of a trial. Whether we believe that trial is spiritual or political or economic or any other lens, it is a trial that is testing our resolve and will continue to do so. We are witnessing for each other by ringing the bell, even if we are not finding every person who is lost. This is life in our time.
JVL, I follow you because your insights on political behavior and decision-making are second to none. So when you share a possible scenario under which the Supreme Court cedes this matter in exchange for time, I pay attention. It's a shocking prediction, but I'm not going to come at you.
But I will say this possibility leaves me woefully sad -- and enraged that the Court made the bed that enabled this dictator to shit all over it. We need to channel our anger into something powerful.
Do any of yall know how the pollsters get their random sampling? Are pollsters calling? Cause i dont pick up for unknown numbers. And i can understand why a pollster would not leave a message to call back- but i dont know if polls could be skewed by this type of thing.
This is a problem in polling. There are certainly methods used to try to overcome it, but truly, polls have become less reliable because of the biasing effect of people not answering. The well-known bias is that younger people don't answer, but there are likely some other known biases that are corrected for. But while these corrections help, they don't completely solve the issue.
JVL is working hard to think of ways for Roberts to be clever. I swear I believe Trump got ideas from us in the opposition saying, "then he'll do thus".
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He does not have the ingenuity. He is a creature of repilian instinct who takes suggestion well.
Andrew's comment at 23, re the absurdity of these two.. especially DT ..
In the April 24 issue of NYBooks, Fintan O'Toole refers to "The infantilization of America’s domestic politics.." which is a pretty apt descriptor
Just say they’re lying Andrew it’s called lying.
STL represent, Andrew! You a Battlehawks fan?
For the brief moment before I realized I was not going to be able to sustain interest in the XFL—yes!
The criminalization of ideas is next.
JVL, who is telling you to calm down?
They need their faces slapped.
You know. I took psychedelics, and saw things far wilder than any of this.
What I never anticipated, was the pure evil and hate. Sorry Bill Marbles, him charming you at din din, doesn't make the guy less authoritarian.
Don’t calm down JVL, it’s not crazy talk to think Trump will deport citizens: he just said he would.
Anyone who opposes Donald Trump, or anyone he just believes is against him will be labeled treasonous or a terrorist now.
This is scary. It is wrong. It is full-blown authoritarianism.
As a naturalized citizen I can tell you we ARE scared. My husband is a regular white guy from Colorado and he is so scared for me he wants us to move to Canada, but I don't want to leave, I moved here for a reason. But we are all scared.
Re, “Home-Growns”, but if they’re really bad people, ‘the kind of people who hit elderly women in the back of the head when they’re not looking’, would the people make this a hill they’re willing to die on? I think not. And once they’re rounding up, ‘really bad-the worst of the worst’, how long before the, ‘worst of the worst’ include you, or me, or Taylor or Krebs? Or Crooked Hillary? Or Sleepy Joe and Laptop Hunter?
If I were elected president as a Democrat in 2028, my first act would be to round up all the pardoned J6 insurrectionists (actual home-grown terrorists) and deport them to CECOT. That should be sufficient to create a bipartisan consensus to rein in this practice. But, until the shoe is on the other foot, I don't see Republicans caring about this abuse.
I still have some small hope that such an outcome (a 2028 presidential election) is remotely possible. I don’t see it- but it’s possible. But in the event it occurs, I would expect another fruitless attempt to “heal” the nation by a newly elected president as opposed to the infliction of punishment. One more but: But I would trade that whole group of giggling imbeciles for the release of Mr. Kilmer Abrego Garcia and let that group giggle in Mr. Bukele’s modern day Treblinka for an equal amount of days to Mr. Garcia’s internment there. Every guffawing fool in that room is equally complicit in his fate and in my mind justly deserves to experience what they seem to think is so forking funny.
This is what has been kind of shocking to me. Rendering people to CECOT who are like what you described -- totally unsympathetic, antisocial, violent and dangerous, documented for hurting vulnerable people -- that is what I thought they would start with to get the nation warming up to the idea of skipping due process. But they didn't even bother. That is really bad, but it gives me some (small) hope that, since they are disappearing people who seem mostly to be okay, regular people, I think resistance is easier to whip up. Not easy enough, but easier. I know they are claiming they are all violent offenders, but the lack of evidence is just stunning. A lot of people are okay with no evidence, but a LOT of people really aren't, if their attention can be captured.
Yes, capture their attention and then keep it- somehow manage to keep whisking away the smoke being blown up their collective keisters day and night and return their focus to a man, a husband, a father who was whisked off of America’s streets and cast off to hell, for the crime of….not being a white Anglo Saxon ….should be simple, but i wonder about my fellow citizens
Worser state thinking… Um, el salvador could choose to deem land any of these gulags are on is American soil- similar to Embassies. Then someone could theoretically say they werent deported?
I hope they do that. Once the facility is American soil, Trump's argument that he can't interfere with the sovereign actions of the government of El Salvador would evaporate.
That’s a very good point. It’s really scary that every time someone points out the next logical step of their plan, it’s worse than what I would have imagined and ends up happening.
At least under this strategy, they won’t try to make El Salvador the 51st state.
Thank god for male pattern baldness or I would be asphyxiating on the smoke from my own hair.
Male pattern baldness might be the catalyst for a lot of Trump’s behavior.
Thank you, JVL, for calling them concentration camps. We need to use the right words here. This is abhorrent.
No words. Just insane.
Oh- wait- a few words- the participation trophies on the mantle are tacky. How much longer until the walls of the Oval are covered in gold leaf?
I know it’s a fantasy - but I’d love to see Democrats in congress call for the impeachment of the Attorney General for overseeing the “mistake” of the deportation of a person with protected status.
Our Constitution - at least in theory - highly values the rights of the individual.
I wish someone would help his family sue the government for damages - $6million or so might allow for their child to get the care he needs since he’s been stripped of his caretaker.
(I know Tuesdays aren’t for wishful thinking but I can’t help it…)
I watched it. I am outraged. I am glad various groups of media folks are reacting, but certainly not enough from groups like NYT. And where is Congress? The only Congressional person who has reacted seems to be Chris Van Hollen.
Thanks for pointing out Sen. Van Hollen's reaction. Here is what PBS is reporting:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/sen-chris-van-hollen-says-hell-travel-to-el-salvador-if-abrego-garcia-isnt-released-by-midweek
Last time I was angry, this time I thought we've been here before let's just figure out what we need to do... Then all this 2025 and Trump vengeance happens. I'm angry again and hate these people. I'm just disgusted.