"...that a man be killed because health care providers are a pain in the ass to deal with."
Pain in the ass to deal with? I'm sorry, but this is yet another example of normalizing the unforgivable. Countless Americans have suffered and died in countless ways because our healthcare providers have cruelly denied treatments and claims for reasons tied exclusively to their company's profits.
In no way am I supporting or justifying the reprehensible violence at the core of this discussion. But please, let's be real.
In Red Rooms, the woman dresses like one of the victims because she wanted to confirm the killer's guilt. Anyway, the scene towards the end where she takes a selfie was a truly haunting image I'll never forget. Great film.
I have a memory of being in college back in 2003, when my girlfriend, roommate, and several friends and I rented the FearDotCom DVD and watched it in my apartment's pitch-black living room, and during the film, one of the girls actually typed in FearDotCom.com on her laptop, and was sent to a secret, unadvertised website (set up by the studio/producers) where you got a whole bunch of additional content related to the movie.
I understand the frustration with the for profit health care industry - but I take no pleasure in the killing of a man who happens to be the CEO of one of those companies. I take no pleasure in vigilante justice. I hate that so many have been praising the killing. I would much rather we implement health care for all and turn any for profit companies remaining into non profit companies. I know people have died due to the decisions of the man's company and others like it. But killing him solves nothing.
"... folks who are saying out loud that it is Good, Actually, that a man be killed because health care providers are a pain in the ass to deal with. " That is a bit too flippant Sonny. The pain and anger that's driving such comments is not the same irritation that comes from dealing with your local cable provider who is also a pain in the ass to deal with but rather from suffering physical pain and suffering or watching a loved one suffer because for someone else it's profitable. It would not be hard at all to extend the metaphor of 'red rooms' to the for profit health insurance industry. Personally, I do not cheer or even jest about Thompson's murder. I can however *understand* the enormous pain that drives the anger. Pain is the cultural poison of our time. Lucas had it wrong it is not fear that becomes hate it is pain that drives people into irrational hatred, from mass shooters to Thompson murder (likely but unproven,) to Trump's election the real root cause is pain.
I agree that health insurance is a worthy target of verbal abuse.
I have been reading the comments and wonder how many of the commentators have ACTUALLY and PERSONALLY truly suffered at the hands of the industry. I do know some people who have had less than optimum experiences and have had a few myself but never thought that would justify celebrating someone's death.
I suspect many of the comments burning up the antisocial media are not from people who have suffered harm but people who simply want to vent their "two minutes of hate" a kind of malignant virtue signaling against what they fear. Another cause for Social Justice Jihadists fighting the cause du jour.
The fact is that it is the government that either has forced or allows the medical industrial complex to operate as it does in order to make a profit within its market. Now it is worthy to debate whether that is how health care should be run but today that is how it is.
If you want a revolution in health care stop assassinating CEOs, and stop whining and hating on the antisocial media and start electing different governments for change.
Imagine if all that energy and anger were directed at your representatives and not at insurance companies.
I think Griff that the experience may be more common than you suppose. In my previous day-job I worked obtaining those prior authorizations for drugs and procedures. Doctors sent the info to our company and all day all we did was work with those private insurance companies. UHC was the *worst*. Denial and forced appeal was the routine. People suffering from deliberating migraines and arthritis pain while the company made them jump through the same hoops. Not once, not twice but for every goddamn treatment, None of the products I worked on were for life saving treatment but relief for serious ailment that made life a horror show. I still have clear memories of when I finally got drugs to a woman who had arthritis that been untreated for 2 years while she worked as a waitress. I do not and will not condone this murder but I have seen the fury that fueled the response.
"...that a man be killed because health care providers are a pain in the ass to deal with."
Pain in the ass to deal with? I'm sorry, but this is yet another example of normalizing the unforgivable. Countless Americans have suffered and died in countless ways because our healthcare providers have cruelly denied treatments and claims for reasons tied exclusively to their company's profits.
In no way am I supporting or justifying the reprehensible violence at the core of this discussion. But please, let's be real.
In Red Rooms, the woman dresses like one of the victims because she wanted to confirm the killer's guilt. Anyway, the scene towards the end where she takes a selfie was a truly haunting image I'll never forget. Great film.
I have a memory of being in college back in 2003, when my girlfriend, roommate, and several friends and I rented the FearDotCom DVD and watched it in my apartment's pitch-black living room, and during the film, one of the girls actually typed in FearDotCom.com on her laptop, and was sent to a secret, unadvertised website (set up by the studio/producers) where you got a whole bunch of additional content related to the movie.
Fun times.
I understand the frustration with the for profit health care industry - but I take no pleasure in the killing of a man who happens to be the CEO of one of those companies. I take no pleasure in vigilante justice. I hate that so many have been praising the killing. I would much rather we implement health care for all and turn any for profit companies remaining into non profit companies. I know people have died due to the decisions of the man's company and others like it. But killing him solves nothing.
“Turn it off! TURN IT OFF!”
"... folks who are saying out loud that it is Good, Actually, that a man be killed because health care providers are a pain in the ass to deal with. " That is a bit too flippant Sonny. The pain and anger that's driving such comments is not the same irritation that comes from dealing with your local cable provider who is also a pain in the ass to deal with but rather from suffering physical pain and suffering or watching a loved one suffer because for someone else it's profitable. It would not be hard at all to extend the metaphor of 'red rooms' to the for profit health insurance industry. Personally, I do not cheer or even jest about Thompson's murder. I can however *understand* the enormous pain that drives the anger. Pain is the cultural poison of our time. Lucas had it wrong it is not fear that becomes hate it is pain that drives people into irrational hatred, from mass shooters to Thompson murder (likely but unproven,) to Trump's election the real root cause is pain.
I agree that health insurance is a worthy target of verbal abuse.
I have been reading the comments and wonder how many of the commentators have ACTUALLY and PERSONALLY truly suffered at the hands of the industry. I do know some people who have had less than optimum experiences and have had a few myself but never thought that would justify celebrating someone's death.
I suspect many of the comments burning up the antisocial media are not from people who have suffered harm but people who simply want to vent their "two minutes of hate" a kind of malignant virtue signaling against what they fear. Another cause for Social Justice Jihadists fighting the cause du jour.
The fact is that it is the government that either has forced or allows the medical industrial complex to operate as it does in order to make a profit within its market. Now it is worthy to debate whether that is how health care should be run but today that is how it is.
If you want a revolution in health care stop assassinating CEOs, and stop whining and hating on the antisocial media and start electing different governments for change.
Imagine if all that energy and anger were directed at your representatives and not at insurance companies.
I think Griff that the experience may be more common than you suppose. In my previous day-job I worked obtaining those prior authorizations for drugs and procedures. Doctors sent the info to our company and all day all we did was work with those private insurance companies. UHC was the *worst*. Denial and forced appeal was the routine. People suffering from deliberating migraines and arthritis pain while the company made them jump through the same hoops. Not once, not twice but for every goddamn treatment, None of the products I worked on were for life saving treatment but relief for serious ailment that made life a horror show. I still have clear memories of when I finally got drugs to a woman who had arthritis that been untreated for 2 years while she worked as a waitress. I do not and will not condone this murder but I have seen the fury that fueled the response.