I used to think like this. I've changed my mind. Here's why: You cannot trust a GOP majority to do the job it is meant to do as opposed to wasting our money playing childish games comprised of lies and hate and vengence. And every R elected is a step farther away from returning the GOP to being an actual responsible political party. Toda…
I used to think like this. I've changed my mind. Here's why: You cannot trust a GOP majority to do the job it is meant to do as opposed to wasting our money playing childish games comprised of lies and hate and vengence. And every R elected is a step farther away from returning the GOP to being an actual responsible political party. Today's Rs need to be gone and R voters need to understand that in today's dangerous and complex world, those elected to high office need to be of high moral character, need to have some relevant experience, and need to be honest. Today's Rs do NOT fit that bill overall, so I will not vote for the best of them, because having them in the Majority is too destructive. Dear heaven, a half dozen or more of them HELPED the J6 MOB!!! And are still in OFFICE!!!
So, no. Voting against the Party of Hate until further notice because it is the only way to stop it!
So, IOW, your proposal is to vote against *anyone* with an "R" after their name because the Party is so corrupted. But, at the same time, you seem to feel that they can self-correct without voting for a decent R who would add to the efforts to clean up their act.
While every MAGAdroid claims to be a Republican, not all Republicans are MAGA. By your criteria someone like Adam Kinzinger should not serve in the House solely based on what his Party affiliation is, and that people like Joe Manchin or Henry Cuellar should be seated based on the D after their names.
I'm not trying to insult you, or implying that you are wrong in your beliefs, disagreement (and then compromise) is the very essence of a democracy - or in our case, a Constitutional Republic. I just believe that there are still some decent Repubs running for a political office, at the local, state and national levels, and these people deserve some support if the New GOP is to retain any semblance of a viable party with a future in American politics.
Sadly, yes. Because having Adam and Liz helped give Rs the majority, where they can do more damage (though they did remarkable damage in the minority too), and the only way to stop the Gohmerts and Hawleys is to stop the Rs from winning or stealing elections and giving themselves the majority despite their unpopular views and minority numbers overall. This should only take 8 years if it was really done right.
And they need a shock treatment, imho!
PS: R state legislatures are doing a TON of damage to voting rights nationwide too!!!!
Again, you would deny a normie the chance to work within the Republican Party in trying to resurrect the ruins we now see. The only way, IMO, to restore any integrity to the New GOP is to replace the Psychiatric Facility Escapee Caucus members with Republicans who understand the concept of legislation for the good of the entire country, and aren't just there to own the Libs and practice political theater targeting their rabid base. (These people do exist.) If the centrist wing of the New GOP is voted out of swing districts, all that will remain are the MAGAdroids from safe districts, and this will assuredly kill the Party.
Please do not interpret this as a push to vote R, but to consider looking at a moderate Republican rather than just voting Democrat since Dems can be extremists, too.
It really isn't imperative to vote out all Republicans to make the Dems the majority in the House, but it is essential for the Republicans to remain a viable party while ridding themselves of the bomb throwers. If there is no voice from the opposition then there is no real democracy. The only way that voice will be heard is by voting for them - should their position statements meld with your own stance.
I said it before, and I will say it again: just because you have a D after your name doesn't automatically make you one of the good guys. and having an R doesn't make you a villain.
I used to think like this. I've changed my mind. Here's why: You cannot trust a GOP majority to do the job it is meant to do as opposed to wasting our money playing childish games comprised of lies and hate and vengence. And every R elected is a step farther away from returning the GOP to being an actual responsible political party. Today's Rs need to be gone and R voters need to understand that in today's dangerous and complex world, those elected to high office need to be of high moral character, need to have some relevant experience, and need to be honest. Today's Rs do NOT fit that bill overall, so I will not vote for the best of them, because having them in the Majority is too destructive. Dear heaven, a half dozen or more of them HELPED the J6 MOB!!! And are still in OFFICE!!!
So, no. Voting against the Party of Hate until further notice because it is the only way to stop it!
So, IOW, your proposal is to vote against *anyone* with an "R" after their name because the Party is so corrupted. But, at the same time, you seem to feel that they can self-correct without voting for a decent R who would add to the efforts to clean up their act.
While every MAGAdroid claims to be a Republican, not all Republicans are MAGA. By your criteria someone like Adam Kinzinger should not serve in the House solely based on what his Party affiliation is, and that people like Joe Manchin or Henry Cuellar should be seated based on the D after their names.
I'm not trying to insult you, or implying that you are wrong in your beliefs, disagreement (and then compromise) is the very essence of a democracy - or in our case, a Constitutional Republic. I just believe that there are still some decent Repubs running for a political office, at the local, state and national levels, and these people deserve some support if the New GOP is to retain any semblance of a viable party with a future in American politics.
fnord
Sadly, yes. Because having Adam and Liz helped give Rs the majority, where they can do more damage (though they did remarkable damage in the minority too), and the only way to stop the Gohmerts and Hawleys is to stop the Rs from winning or stealing elections and giving themselves the majority despite their unpopular views and minority numbers overall. This should only take 8 years if it was really done right.
And they need a shock treatment, imho!
PS: R state legislatures are doing a TON of damage to voting rights nationwide too!!!!
Again, you would deny a normie the chance to work within the Republican Party in trying to resurrect the ruins we now see. The only way, IMO, to restore any integrity to the New GOP is to replace the Psychiatric Facility Escapee Caucus members with Republicans who understand the concept of legislation for the good of the entire country, and aren't just there to own the Libs and practice political theater targeting their rabid base. (These people do exist.) If the centrist wing of the New GOP is voted out of swing districts, all that will remain are the MAGAdroids from safe districts, and this will assuredly kill the Party.
Please do not interpret this as a push to vote R, but to consider looking at a moderate Republican rather than just voting Democrat since Dems can be extremists, too.
It really isn't imperative to vote out all Republicans to make the Dems the majority in the House, but it is essential for the Republicans to remain a viable party while ridding themselves of the bomb throwers. If there is no voice from the opposition then there is no real democracy. The only way that voice will be heard is by voting for them - should their position statements meld with your own stance.
I said it before, and I will say it again: just because you have a D after your name doesn't automatically make you one of the good guys. and having an R doesn't make you a villain.
fnord
Kinzinger and Cheney voted for and supported Trump in 2020.
They need to be made a rump party until they figure their shit out.