Tim mentioned he was confused by AOC’s statement about not taking a risk by changing the Democratic ballot at this late date. One thing AOC meant was there are a lot of rules regarding when a party must submit their nominees’ names to states so the states can follow their internal processes and begin printing ballots. States have a deadl…
Tim mentioned he was confused by AOC’s statement about not taking a risk by changing the Democratic ballot at this late date. One thing AOC meant was there are a lot of rules regarding when a party must submit their nominees’ names to states so the states can follow their internal processes and begin printing ballots. States have a deadline codified in state election laws as to when they must receive the nominee names to place on their state ballot. Republican led states will bring legal challenges if they are asked to change the ballot of a party after the deadline. In fact the Democratic convention is set to take place after the deadline for one Republican state. That state said they would not accept nominees’ names after their state’s legal deadline . This is why the Democrats set up a digital gathering of their designated electors before the actual convention so the Electors can go ahead and vote for nominees thereby meeting all states’ deadlines. AOC is stressing that at this late date changing the Democratic nominees names on state ballots will insure a great deal of litigation that will not be quickly resolved. Courts and Republican led legislatures will end up making decisions about the Democratic ballot and it won’t be smooth or pretty. In addition she is stressing that the assumption the Democratic Convention will quickly and smoothly choose new nominees is not realistic. It would be easy for anyone with an agenda to sew chaos. Even if the change proceeded smoothly, the slate of names produced at a convention would have blown past the deadline of some states’ codified election rules. It’s too late to make these sweeping changes. Everything becomes a legal battle with individual states at that point. If you think the Republican led states will say it’s cool, I have a bridge to sell you. This is a huge dose of chaos and the Republicans will like that. Lots of litigation and Republican courts in Republican states making decisions about the Democratic ballot.
Many of us are voting for the Democratic ticket not Biden at this point. That might be the best we can do given the short amount of time we have now.
I was not confused by this I was confused by her motivations.
This is not an issue. The democrats don’t have a nominee yet. This is only an issue if there is a change after they formally nominate someone. The Republicans will file frivolous lawsuits no matter what that’s no reason not to do something
AOC tries to walk a fine line between progressivism and mainstream because (1) I think she actually cares about legislating and governing (unlike the rest of the Squad) and (2) she saw how Jameel Bowman got primaried and she worries it could happen to her down the road. Right now she's firmly in the "keep Joe" camp probably because she thinks (as I do) that Joe ultimately won't give it up and she doesn't want to be one of those who plotted to kill the king but failed to kill the king.
Tim mentioned he was confused by AOC’s statement about not taking a risk by changing the Democratic ballot at this late date. One thing AOC meant was there are a lot of rules regarding when a party must submit their nominees’ names to states so the states can follow their internal processes and begin printing ballots. States have a deadline codified in state election laws as to when they must receive the nominee names to place on their state ballot. Republican led states will bring legal challenges if they are asked to change the ballot of a party after the deadline. In fact the Democratic convention is set to take place after the deadline for one Republican state. That state said they would not accept nominees’ names after their state’s legal deadline . This is why the Democrats set up a digital gathering of their designated electors before the actual convention so the Electors can go ahead and vote for nominees thereby meeting all states’ deadlines. AOC is stressing that at this late date changing the Democratic nominees names on state ballots will insure a great deal of litigation that will not be quickly resolved. Courts and Republican led legislatures will end up making decisions about the Democratic ballot and it won’t be smooth or pretty. In addition she is stressing that the assumption the Democratic Convention will quickly and smoothly choose new nominees is not realistic. It would be easy for anyone with an agenda to sew chaos. Even if the change proceeded smoothly, the slate of names produced at a convention would have blown past the deadline of some states’ codified election rules. It’s too late to make these sweeping changes. Everything becomes a legal battle with individual states at that point. If you think the Republican led states will say it’s cool, I have a bridge to sell you. This is a huge dose of chaos and the Republicans will like that. Lots of litigation and Republican courts in Republican states making decisions about the Democratic ballot.
Many of us are voting for the Democratic ticket not Biden at this point. That might be the best we can do given the short amount of time we have now.
I was not confused by this I was confused by her motivations.
This is not an issue. The democrats don’t have a nominee yet. This is only an issue if there is a change after they formally nominate someone. The Republicans will file frivolous lawsuits no matter what that’s no reason not to do something
AOC tries to walk a fine line between progressivism and mainstream because (1) I think she actually cares about legislating and governing (unlike the rest of the Squad) and (2) she saw how Jameel Bowman got primaried and she worries it could happen to her down the road. Right now she's firmly in the "keep Joe" camp probably because she thinks (as I do) that Joe ultimately won't give it up and she doesn't want to be one of those who plotted to kill the king but failed to kill the king.