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This country voted for the return of Trump to the presidency. Through that vote they repudiated pretty much everything I ever loved about this country. It was bad in 2016, but at least then I could look at the numbers and say there were 3 million more of us who didn't want this. Can't say that now. All those stories I've read and watched on TV and seen in the movie theaters where the United States is the power behind the good guys has ended. Just how am I supposed to love what is left behind? We're the bad guys now and I hate that.

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It’s hard to be proud to be an American when about a third of the electorate voted for Trump and another third didn’t care enough to vote.

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We can still love who we used to be, the respect and gratitude we took for granted; and the ideals we aspired to uphold and manifest. Always imperfect at best, a study in contradictions, never fully living up to our true potential as laid out in the Constitution and its Amendments.

In my 20s I remember being amazed and amused that my father, retired from 20 years in the Air Force, wanted to put a flagpole in our rural front yard. I was young and much more politically left than I am now at 67 yrs old. I was thinking only about the waste and disgrace of Vietnam, Nixon, the politics of the Bush1 years, racism and misogyny, etc. etc. etc.

For decades liberals have been labeled as hating America. That was never true. We simply want our nation to continue to aspire to and evolve toward the vision our Founders had for this country. The current events are a setback that I believe we will eventually overcome, as we always have in the past.

This week I found myself shopping online for flags to hang from my porch rafter: an American flag, flanked by a Rainbow/Transgender flag and a Coexist flag. I think my father would be proud of me, and have no pride at all in my 2 Trumper sisters. His last vote was for Obama in 2008. He couldn't stand Bush 2.

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Agreed, in part. What I agree Americans voted for *Trump*, I disagree that they necessarily voted for the insane agenda he's pushing through. To be fair, I: (1) recognize the "normie" voters who pulled the lever for Trump should have paid closer attention to what he was actually saying; and (2) have a good deal of anger for those who voted for him specifically because they thought he wouldn't actually do many of the things he campaigned on. Nonetheless, I think part of the problem is that most people - i.e. non-political junkies -don't pay attention to politics when the system is functioning as it should. Hence, the relative normalcy of the Biden administration presumably kept most voters from paying attention to what Trump was laying the groundwork for until deep into the general. Those same people presumably waived off concerns about project 2025 as histrionics, telling themselves that a second Trump administration would be largely the same as the first. Unfortunately, they didn't realize a moron with a flamethrower is far more dangerous once someone's given him the instruction manual. (Thank's for *that*, Heritage Foundation.) Unfortunately, we're now at the point in the show where Walter White has fully transitioned to Heisenberg.

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Love your profile name!

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Like this way of looking at our non-informed populace. Which still believes that they who speak first and they who speak loudest are the ones to believe .

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IMO, we have reached the logical conclusion of the 1980s ethos so well described in the movie "Wall Street". Most of those in power now were in their formative years then. And many look at the long arc of history and declare that we're simply returning to "the natural way of things". I was fortunate enough to spend most of my life away from that "natural way" and all its corruption, in a country that tried to eliminate it. But that's over now.

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Yes, the 1980s. Saint Ronnie ignited this whole thing.

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And yet if you say you are a Reagan Republican you will be labeled as a RINO

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I have been thinking about this very point.

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Beautifully said.

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exactly. when you destroy our mythos what's the pt? what was the pt of the cold war or normandy or the battle of the bulge? believe me there's a lot of old guys who smoke from the nostalgia pipe on these topic yet love the trumpster who could care less...

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