They don't make up most of the country. They won by a slim margin but still under 50% of the vote. If you combine the votes for Harris and the 3rd party votes, they are clearly in the minority. It's just that they have the loudest mouths.
They don't make up most of the country. They won by a slim margin but still under 50% of the vote. If you combine the votes for Harris and the 3rd party votes, they are clearly in the minority. It's just that they have the loudest mouths.
Don’t forget the 76 million who didn’t vote, but were registered. Essentially, Trump won a little more than a third of the electorate; not a majority , and certainly not a mandate to completely reshape our government; ending democracy as we know it.
Does the fact that he only won a third of the electorate matter? They won, they make the rules. Perhaps one day the Democrats will realize that if you don't win, you don't govern.
Really? You call burning down the house governing? Perhaps you need to define the term governing, so at least we have a baseline to debate!
There is a difference between governing and firing the entire government, so one can control the purse strings, while a complicit and compliant Congress, forsakes from its actual obligations, duties and oath of office; allowing the president to take a sledgehammer to our Constitution.
If this is governing, then you seriously need to find a good therapist. Americans voted for Trump to tackle inflation, not to threaten every ally we have with crippling tariffs, based on the imagination and machinations of a deranged lunatic! Or threaten to invade Canada, Greenland and Mexico. I don’t recall Trump running on those platforms!
Agree about what is and isn't governing. As to what his slim majority voted for, I think they voted for him because he's "strong." I think in their view threatening is strength.
I also think you have to be a weak person who doesn't have a clue about what a liberal democracy is to think Trump is strong.
I have the uncomfortable feeling that a lot of Trump voters were motivated by the opportunity of hurting others. “Liberal tears” and all that. Yeah; to portray Trump as strong is a real mind bender and adds to my unease about my fellow Americans.
Yes certainly. I don't know enough about the swing voters who gave him his win. They're not MAGA. That's why they're swing voters. And the Dems who didn't turn out. They're not MAGA either. How much do those two groups who gave him the vote represent? I haven't seen anything to back this up, but 1O% keeps running through my head. That 1O% is not MAGA. If the Dems could play this right, they could be persuaded to swing again.
To paraphrase a famous movie line, “are you not entertained?”. Unfortunately, for a large swath of our fellow citizens, they wont recognize the damage this ‘entertainment’ has wrought until they’ve been whacked repeatedly. It’s an oversimplification to say they relish the pain inflicted on those they resent. But that doesn’t make it a false observation. It may be a while before they realize the ‘hotfoot’ they find so amusing has actually burned off three of their own toes.
The word govern is a verb. He who wins is allowed to act. He who loses is left to whine about the consequences of those actions. The truth is that none of this would be happening if we won.
I’m sorry, we aren’t discussing grammar; yes, it’s an act, but the word “govern” describes the acts of the governor: conduct the policy, actions, and affairs of (a state, organization, or people).
We live in a democracy, where one who governs, still has to do so by a defined set of rules, which we call laws, and under the authority of the Constitution, and supervision of the Justice System.
Furthermore, one who governs outside the rules of law, is called a criminal or usurper, or in this case, the president, who is governing illegally, and in violation of the law of the land: THE CONSTITUTION! Otherwise, Nixon wouldn’t have resigned or needed a pardon. And the constitution is pretty unambiguous when it granted Congress the power of the purse; not the anointed one.
Moreover, just because the SC is filled with corrupt, theocratic fascists, who believe the Constitution gives immunity to presidents, and that their Christian religion is enshrined in the constitution, or America having a Christian god as our deity; doesn’t make it so!
Bottom line: History has a way of correcting injustices, and dealing with corrupt monarchs, dictators and usurpers.
And when I refer to Trump as a usurper, it’s not because he seized power illegally, it’s because he’s usurping his power and position as president; such as usurping the powers of Congress (Article 1: Congress shall have the power of the purse…..).
Therefore, in the end, America will be no different, and justice will be served!
Agree with all of this except your last sentence. Justice will be served only if the Supreme Court rules against his usurpation and he complies with their ruling. I'm not sure either of those will happen.
"We live in a democracy, where one who governs, still has to do so by a defined set of rules, which we call laws, and under the authority of the Constitution, and supervision of the Justice System." Evidently not. And how long do we have to wait until "history" corrects these injustices? How much damage will occur until your bottom line is actualized? Again, if we win, none of this is happening.
They don't make up most of the country. They won by a slim margin but still under 50% of the vote. If you combine the votes for Harris and the 3rd party votes, they are clearly in the minority. It's just that they have the loudest mouths.
Not so sure. The rest of the country tolerates them.
If by tolerate you mean not doing anything to oppose them, then I agree.
Don’t forget the 76 million who didn’t vote, but were registered. Essentially, Trump won a little more than a third of the electorate; not a majority , and certainly not a mandate to completely reshape our government; ending democracy as we know it.
Does the fact that he only won a third of the electorate matter? They won, they make the rules. Perhaps one day the Democrats will realize that if you don't win, you don't govern.
Really? You call burning down the house governing? Perhaps you need to define the term governing, so at least we have a baseline to debate!
There is a difference between governing and firing the entire government, so one can control the purse strings, while a complicit and compliant Congress, forsakes from its actual obligations, duties and oath of office; allowing the president to take a sledgehammer to our Constitution.
If this is governing, then you seriously need to find a good therapist. Americans voted for Trump to tackle inflation, not to threaten every ally we have with crippling tariffs, based on the imagination and machinations of a deranged lunatic! Or threaten to invade Canada, Greenland and Mexico. I don’t recall Trump running on those platforms!
Agree about what is and isn't governing. As to what his slim majority voted for, I think they voted for him because he's "strong." I think in their view threatening is strength.
I also think you have to be a weak person who doesn't have a clue about what a liberal democracy is to think Trump is strong.
I have the uncomfortable feeling that a lot of Trump voters were motivated by the opportunity of hurting others. “Liberal tears” and all that. Yeah; to portray Trump as strong is a real mind bender and adds to my unease about my fellow Americans.
Yes certainly. I don't know enough about the swing voters who gave him his win. They're not MAGA. That's why they're swing voters. And the Dems who didn't turn out. They're not MAGA either. How much do those two groups who gave him the vote represent? I haven't seen anything to back this up, but 1O% keeps running through my head. That 1O% is not MAGA. If the Dems could play this right, they could be persuaded to swing again.
To paraphrase a famous movie line, “are you not entertained?”. Unfortunately, for a large swath of our fellow citizens, they wont recognize the damage this ‘entertainment’ has wrought until they’ve been whacked repeatedly. It’s an oversimplification to say they relish the pain inflicted on those they resent. But that doesn’t make it a false observation. It may be a while before they realize the ‘hotfoot’ they find so amusing has actually burned off three of their own toes.
Agreed! Never more prescient words..:)
The word govern is a verb. He who wins is allowed to act. He who loses is left to whine about the consequences of those actions. The truth is that none of this would be happening if we won.
I’m sorry, we aren’t discussing grammar; yes, it’s an act, but the word “govern” describes the acts of the governor: conduct the policy, actions, and affairs of (a state, organization, or people).
We live in a democracy, where one who governs, still has to do so by a defined set of rules, which we call laws, and under the authority of the Constitution, and supervision of the Justice System.
Furthermore, one who governs outside the rules of law, is called a criminal or usurper, or in this case, the president, who is governing illegally, and in violation of the law of the land: THE CONSTITUTION! Otherwise, Nixon wouldn’t have resigned or needed a pardon. And the constitution is pretty unambiguous when it granted Congress the power of the purse; not the anointed one.
Moreover, just because the SC is filled with corrupt, theocratic fascists, who believe the Constitution gives immunity to presidents, and that their Christian religion is enshrined in the constitution, or America having a Christian god as our deity; doesn’t make it so!
Bottom line: History has a way of correcting injustices, and dealing with corrupt monarchs, dictators and usurpers.
And when I refer to Trump as a usurper, it’s not because he seized power illegally, it’s because he’s usurping his power and position as president; such as usurping the powers of Congress (Article 1: Congress shall have the power of the purse…..).
Therefore, in the end, America will be no different, and justice will be served!
Agree with all of this except your last sentence. Justice will be served only if the Supreme Court rules against his usurpation and he complies with their ruling. I'm not sure either of those will happen.
Fair enough, one can dream though!
"We live in a democracy, where one who governs, still has to do so by a defined set of rules, which we call laws, and under the authority of the Constitution, and supervision of the Justice System." Evidently not. And how long do we have to wait until "history" corrects these injustices? How much damage will occur until your bottom line is actualized? Again, if we win, none of this is happening.