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Why should it be up to Dems to save democracy now Andrew? Tried that, it didn't work. Not enough American voters were interested in that. 47% were but so sorry, it's not enough.

And besides, no one thanks Dems for doing so. Look I know one must be altruistic but when elected Dems fight or speak out on something that Trump does, who is gonna listen? Those in the know will know ie us but those on fox right wing media system won't. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but let's just assess case by case basis on what's worth saving. JVL and Sarah had this discussion recently. I lean more towards JVL on this one even though Sarah is forcing us to think of our better angels. We need her to do that. And we need your viewpoints too Andrew so don't stop. As much as I'm not hopeful.

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I'm with JVL on this one. Dems should only fight when it hurts mostly the reliably Democratic consituency, and not fight things that will ultimately be unpopular and hurt mostly the Trump consituency.

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I have to add that this will not work unless all elected Dems everywhere lay the blame squarely on Trump. Because Trump will *always* blame someone else and it's only perception that matters.

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