So many of the people who worked around POTUS 44 think no one will ever be as good as Obama, but Stuart Stevens argues that Democrats need to make the case that Joe Biden is a great president. Meanwhile, Dems on Tuesday showed they are the one party holding their crazy people to account. Plus, Vance is too smart to be Trump's VP pick, more Republicans need to follow Kinzinger's example, and Ole Miss, college sports and civil rights. Tim Miller's show today.
No fooling. Watch Keith Olbermann's Post Debate YouTube analysis. Nothing short of brilliant, describing journalistic malpractice. He knows legacy media like the back of his hand.
Good chat today with Stuart Stevens, but it leaves me with a couple questions.
The easy one, that I’ll dispose of in a sentence, is why didn’t you discuss Burgham in your conversation about VP picks. He can contribute the only thing Trump cares about – money. (Okay, that was two sentences.)
More importantly, your discussion of the future of the Republican Party and this week’s primaries in New York and Colorado. I’ve asked this of several people and have never gotten a good answer.
Given that the crazies have taken over the Republican Party, why not encourage all Normie Republicans, electeds and rank and file, to switch and become Democrats. It seems to me that it’s easier for lots of former Republicans to bring the Democrats to the center than it is to rescue their former party.
What you’ll probably end up with is a party that’s center left on social issues, center right on economic and strong on defense.
And, as a somewhat liberal Democrat, I ask what’s wrong with that?
But how can you discuss SEC football without facing the fact that Alabama will beat 'e both?
What an awesome pod! Stuart is the only person I've ever heard say what I've said many times: now I can see how Nazi Germany happened. I've also wondered if the only thing that will destroy the MAGA movement is the movement itself.
Stuart made lots of good points and it was an A#1 discussion - once again. Tim, your talent for choosing guests and ensuring engaging and thought-provoking conversations is off the charts.
But the problem is that (at least) a significant plurality of the American electorate are not looking for a 'great president,' they're looking for an Entertaining President!
I'm inclined to think it will be Burgum. He hasn't torched Trump in the past, unlike Vance and Rubio, he's rich (Trump has got to like that), he won't outshine Trump like Vance might, and he's a loyal lapdog so Trump won't have to worry about his unfailing obedience.
It's very simple when it comes to these coward Republican's incentive structure when it comes to getting in line with Trump. It's the first time in history a political party is scared to death of their own voters. Poly Sci Ph.D. students will be writing dissertations about this forever.
Great one Tim. You and Stuart Stevens are the only two GOP operatives who have taken accountability for the actions and blindness that have led us to the GOP we are now cursed with. I so appreciate your honesty. JVL has also accepted his blindness to the pro life power broker reality. Self insight is priceless.
The book title that Stuart mentioned re Joe Namath and civil rights: "Rising Tide: Bear Bryant, Joe Namath, and Dixie's Last Quarter" Hardcover – August 20, 2013
Hi Tim, Stewart,
No fooling. Watch Keith Olbermann's Post Debate YouTube analysis. Nothing short of brilliant, describing journalistic malpractice. He knows legacy media like the back of his hand.
https://www.youtube.com/live/0q0NNnn_kCE?si=7X_XDbXAzT-0llNU
Great pod as always and I stay until the last word just to hear your close out tunes. The best!! Thx!
Good chat today with Stuart Stevens, but it leaves me with a couple questions.
The easy one, that I’ll dispose of in a sentence, is why didn’t you discuss Burgham in your conversation about VP picks. He can contribute the only thing Trump cares about – money. (Okay, that was two sentences.)
More importantly, your discussion of the future of the Republican Party and this week’s primaries in New York and Colorado. I’ve asked this of several people and have never gotten a good answer.
Given that the crazies have taken over the Republican Party, why not encourage all Normie Republicans, electeds and rank and file, to switch and become Democrats. It seems to me that it’s easier for lots of former Republicans to bring the Democrats to the center than it is to rescue their former party.
What you’ll probably end up with is a party that’s center left on social issues, center right on economic and strong on defense.
And, as a somewhat liberal Democrat, I ask what’s wrong with that?
But how can you discuss SEC football without facing the fact that Alabama will beat 'e both?
What an awesome pod! Stuart is the only person I've ever heard say what I've said many times: now I can see how Nazi Germany happened. I've also wondered if the only thing that will destroy the MAGA movement is the movement itself.
Stuart made lots of good points and it was an A#1 discussion - once again. Tim, your talent for choosing guests and ensuring engaging and thought-provoking conversations is off the charts.
When Stuart made the comment about how pain at the ballot box is the only thing R’s understand I swear I heard Carville talking!
But the problem is that (at least) a significant plurality of the American electorate are not looking for a 'great president,' they're looking for an Entertaining President!
Re: Trump's VP pick.
I'm inclined to think it will be Burgum. He hasn't torched Trump in the past, unlike Vance and Rubio, he's rich (Trump has got to like that), he won't outshine Trump like Vance might, and he's a loyal lapdog so Trump won't have to worry about his unfailing obedience.
That's my hunch anyways.
Man, how could I not love this episode? HYDR.
Speaking of Ole Miss and the 1962 riot and books, An American Insurrection is a great read…and the riot itself is an eerie parallel to J6.
That piece about Ole Miss is astonishing in every way. Thank you for the link.
It's very simple when it comes to these coward Republican's incentive structure when it comes to getting in line with Trump. It's the first time in history a political party is scared to death of their own voters. Poly Sci Ph.D. students will be writing dissertations about this forever.
Great one Tim. You and Stuart Stevens are the only two GOP operatives who have taken accountability for the actions and blindness that have led us to the GOP we are now cursed with. I so appreciate your honesty. JVL has also accepted his blindness to the pro life power broker reality. Self insight is priceless.
Obama was really disappointing. But Joe Biden is a really great President.
I thought Kinzinger's timing was very strong, punching through pre-debate. Smart people. A march of endorsements here till Election Day.
Stuart Stevens is fabulous.
Great episode. Learned a lot.
The book title that Stuart mentioned re Joe Namath and civil rights: "Rising Tide: Bear Bryant, Joe Namath, and Dixie's Last Quarter" Hardcover – August 20, 2013