So, Deutschmeister, I'm an admirer of good solid well thought out theses backed up by fluent prose, hence my high opinion of your posts (and please, no comments of "get a room" from other commenters here.) I haven't seen where you stand on the clash of Joe's "Should I Stay or Should I Go" dilemma (see what I did there?) Do you have an op…
So, Deutschmeister, I'm an admirer of good solid well thought out theses backed up by fluent prose, hence my high opinion of your posts (and please, no comments of "get a room" from other commenters here.) I haven't seen where you stand on the clash of Joe's "Should I Stay or Should I Go" dilemma (see what I did there?) Do you have an opinion, or did you already express one and I just missed it? For awhile I waffled back and forth, landed on the fence for a spell, and eventually sided with the ousters. I'm a gambling man, one who's had some success at the Hold'em table, and I think a new energetic candidate is our best bet. I'm all in on Harris.
Honestly, I don't have a position on staying or going, primarily because I don't feel I have enough information to make that judgment call with a reasonable assurance of accuracy. I keep feeling a nagging sensation that there is a lot more to it all than we've been made aware of -- significant things that those on the inside know but are not communicating, for obvious pragmatic reasons. So I'm trusting Joe and the DNC to get it right, aware as they are of how high the stakes are in this particular campaign. I suspect that's something of a weak response to some people, and I understand that. But it's the truth about how I feel. I just don't know, as there is no easy answer one way or the other.
In contrast I feel a great deal of hostility now toward the Democratic Party for not game planning for this possibility, even privately, and seeing the scenario coming when the signs have been visible for some time. If we're honest about it, we've all been quietly hoping fervently with fingers crossed that Joe would not have a (real or perceived) age-related incident in a very public setting, for all to see. But here we are. If asked to choose among the alternatives, I suppose I'm with Harris, but I am persuadable otherwise. The one good thing about Harris that not enough people are talking about is that she already has been fully vetted -- for the 2020 campaign -- so I do not expect that any unforeseen skeletons are lurking with her. Who knows about someone else who has not been held up to presidential-level scrutiny? If the Dems were to go with someone else who has something of substance to hide, and it were uncovered in the time between the nomination and the election, then we might as well not bother watching the election returns on November 5. We'd be viewing in real time as the last guardrail keeping democracy from going over the cliff is removed.
I appreciate the kind words from both you and Edward, and from others over time. But there are so many good, thoughtful, insightful posters in this forum. I truly am honored to be considered as one of them. I mean that in all sincerity. This group is very special.
Thanks, D. I suspect a lot of activity and conversing among the power brokers on both sides is going on behind closed doors right now, and like you I hope where we end up is what maximizes our odds. I guess one thing that gives me hope about Harris is that we shouldn't forget that she's a politician, she's won several elected posts, and she's not a half-bad stump performer. In these days where performative antics are important I think she can inject a much needed dose of enthusiasm into what has been a somewhat downcast Party the last few years. Cheers!
So, Deutschmeister, I'm an admirer of good solid well thought out theses backed up by fluent prose, hence my high opinion of your posts (and please, no comments of "get a room" from other commenters here.) I haven't seen where you stand on the clash of Joe's "Should I Stay or Should I Go" dilemma (see what I did there?) Do you have an opinion, or did you already express one and I just missed it? For awhile I waffled back and forth, landed on the fence for a spell, and eventually sided with the ousters. I'm a gambling man, one who's had some success at the Hold'em table, and I think a new energetic candidate is our best bet. I'm all in on Harris.
Honestly, I don't have a position on staying or going, primarily because I don't feel I have enough information to make that judgment call with a reasonable assurance of accuracy. I keep feeling a nagging sensation that there is a lot more to it all than we've been made aware of -- significant things that those on the inside know but are not communicating, for obvious pragmatic reasons. So I'm trusting Joe and the DNC to get it right, aware as they are of how high the stakes are in this particular campaign. I suspect that's something of a weak response to some people, and I understand that. But it's the truth about how I feel. I just don't know, as there is no easy answer one way or the other.
In contrast I feel a great deal of hostility now toward the Democratic Party for not game planning for this possibility, even privately, and seeing the scenario coming when the signs have been visible for some time. If we're honest about it, we've all been quietly hoping fervently with fingers crossed that Joe would not have a (real or perceived) age-related incident in a very public setting, for all to see. But here we are. If asked to choose among the alternatives, I suppose I'm with Harris, but I am persuadable otherwise. The one good thing about Harris that not enough people are talking about is that she already has been fully vetted -- for the 2020 campaign -- so I do not expect that any unforeseen skeletons are lurking with her. Who knows about someone else who has not been held up to presidential-level scrutiny? If the Dems were to go with someone else who has something of substance to hide, and it were uncovered in the time between the nomination and the election, then we might as well not bother watching the election returns on November 5. We'd be viewing in real time as the last guardrail keeping democracy from going over the cliff is removed.
Deutchmeister has a line outside the door to his room, so no such suggestion like that from me. ;)
On a more serious note, my journey has mirrored your own.
I appreciate the kind words from both you and Edward, and from others over time. But there are so many good, thoughtful, insightful posters in this forum. I truly am honored to be considered as one of them. I mean that in all sincerity. This group is very special.
Thanks, D. I suspect a lot of activity and conversing among the power brokers on both sides is going on behind closed doors right now, and like you I hope where we end up is what maximizes our odds. I guess one thing that gives me hope about Harris is that we shouldn't forget that she's a politician, she's won several elected posts, and she's not a half-bad stump performer. In these days where performative antics are important I think she can inject a much needed dose of enthusiasm into what has been a somewhat downcast Party the last few years. Cheers!
I just called you easy! ;)
But seriously, I agree completely.
I may be easy, but I'm not a cheap date.
"We've already established what kind of girl you are, now we're just haggling on price!"