The Democrats on the Committee made the deliberate, and very smart, decision to make Liz Cheney the most visible member. They knew her "effective" way of talking would make it much more likely that people on the right would accept as truth what is coming out of the hearings.
I disagree with your inference, if I am reading it correctly, that Democrats as a group are not as effective as Republicans.
But that seems to be the belief of many on the Bulwark.
We really need to rebrand all the diff parties. The Greens are Putin loving fools, the Libertarians are worse, the Republicans don't really exist anymore, And they're left with: Maga-heads, Religious Extremists who want an all White christian nation (lower-case because they are not recognizable as actual Christians), True Conservatives (like Liz and the good folks here at The Bulwark), and NRA ammo-sexuals)... and perhaps a hybrid or two on the edges?
The Left is just as fractured: Extremists, Progressives, Liberals, and Traditional Democrats (like Joe Biden), and some weird concoction of Manchinema? WTF are they?
I wish JVL would start a contest here: Rename all the Parties!!! Then we vote on them. The winners get... BOOKS by Bulwark authors!
I guess I don't quite agree. Yes, Rep Cheney is incredibly effective. But I believe they're putting her out front for a reason: The people on the left don't need to be convinced. There are, however, people on the center-right who are perhaps reachable. They *may* listen to her, when they very likely wouldn't listen to Adam Schiff or another elected Democrat.
Because the Dems had the good sense to realize that making the Republicans the face of the committee would lend it more credence with other Republicans. Please give Chairman Thompson, Adam Schiff, and Jamie some credit, thank you very much.
No, Purple, it speaks volumes about the intelligence of the 1/6 Committee's Democratic leadership, who were wise to make a hard-right Republican their prosecutor-in-chief. It was a brilliant strategy that Democrats don't usually employ, and good for them for being willing to sit back and watch Liz do her thing.
Cheneys are masters at political knifework, and it shows here. Nothing less will do in the march to destroy the tyranny of Trumpism.
Dems are running this investigation damn near perfectly. Republicans are only good at running their mouths. Trump and the GOP rage-spittle prove how well this DEMocratic plan is working.
I agree. The only real stumble was the drawn-out opening statements that were rather yawn-worthy. Unfortunately that wasted the first part of a prime time chunk of time and probably caused more than a few to watch or do something else. The rest has been masterful.
YouтАЩre right. Opening statements for this kind of hearings should be short, sweet, dynamic, and short again. Duck Wolf would have done it perfectly ЁЯШО Rest has been stellar.
I'm afraid it was, Deborah. Purple slimed the Democrats on the committee--the ones doing all the quiet heavy lifting on the investigations end--by saying that the Republican was the only one doing anything worthwhile. That is not remotely true. Liz Cheney is doing a marvelous job as the power forward of this team. But the team of Democrats is feeding her the ball again and again so she can slam-dunk the information to the public.
Purple's slime was ridiculous and not remotely true.
Yes, Deborah, actually the statement was in conflict! . Purple was stating that she's the only one on the committee who has been effective. He was saying that either because he's ignorant of what th 1/6 members themselves say about it (including Liz); OR he was saying it just to be mean-spirited and trying to "own" the Libs. It was a jackassed thing to say. Because it was spreading false information. I hope Charlie takes it down. I need The Bulwark to keep things True and Factual.
After listening to the montage of vile, vitriolic threats received by Kinzinger, itтАЩs a reminder of an under-the-radar remark by one Republican, that the reason Trump survived two impeachments is because members of Congress feared for their lives and the lives of their families if they voted to impeach, even as they wanted to vote Yes.
We are officially a banana republic. The environment of political violence is impossible to ignore. It has stealthy negative effects, like inhibiting good people from political participation.
Chilling. No wonder IтАЩm afraid to put a bumper sticker on my car.
I wish Democrats could express themselves as clearly as Cheney does.
It speaks volumes that the 1/6 Committee largely contains Democrats, and the most effective and visible member is a Republican.
The Democrats on the Committee made the deliberate, and very smart, decision to make Liz Cheney the most visible member. They knew her "effective" way of talking would make it much more likely that people on the right would accept as truth what is coming out of the hearings.
I disagree with your inference, if I am reading it correctly, that Democrats as a group are not as effective as Republicans.
But that seems to be the belief of many on the Bulwark.
We really need to rebrand all the diff parties. The Greens are Putin loving fools, the Libertarians are worse, the Republicans don't really exist anymore, And they're left with: Maga-heads, Religious Extremists who want an all White christian nation (lower-case because they are not recognizable as actual Christians), True Conservatives (like Liz and the good folks here at The Bulwark), and NRA ammo-sexuals)... and perhaps a hybrid or two on the edges?
The Left is just as fractured: Extremists, Progressives, Liberals, and Traditional Democrats (like Joe Biden), and some weird concoction of Manchinema? WTF are they?
I wish JVL would start a contest here: Rename all the Parties!!! Then we vote on them. The winners get... BOOKS by Bulwark authors!
I guess I don't quite agree. Yes, Rep Cheney is incredibly effective. But I believe they're putting her out front for a reason: The people on the left don't need to be convinced. There are, however, people on the center-right who are perhaps reachable. They *may* listen to her, when they very likely wouldn't listen to Adam Schiff or another elected Democrat.
Well-said, thank you.
Because the Dems had the good sense to realize that making the Republicans the face of the committee would lend it more credence with other Republicans. Please give Chairman Thompson, Adam Schiff, and Jamie some credit, thank you very much.
No, Purple, it speaks volumes about the intelligence of the 1/6 Committee's Democratic leadership, who were wise to make a hard-right Republican their prosecutor-in-chief. It was a brilliant strategy that Democrats don't usually employ, and good for them for being willing to sit back and watch Liz do her thing.
Cheneys are masters at political knifework, and it shows here. Nothing less will do in the march to destroy the tyranny of Trumpism.
Dems are running this investigation damn near perfectly. Republicans are only good at running their mouths. Trump and the GOP rage-spittle prove how well this DEMocratic plan is working.
I agree. The only real stumble was the drawn-out opening statements that were rather yawn-worthy. Unfortunately that wasted the first part of a prime time chunk of time and probably caused more than a few to watch or do something else. The rest has been masterful.
YouтАЩre right. Opening statements for this kind of hearings should be short, sweet, dynamic, and short again. Duck Wolf would have done it perfectly ЁЯШО Rest has been stellar.
But what Purple said wasnтАЩt in conflict at all with your statement.
I'm afraid it was, Deborah. Purple slimed the Democrats on the committee--the ones doing all the quiet heavy lifting on the investigations end--by saying that the Republican was the only one doing anything worthwhile. That is not remotely true. Liz Cheney is doing a marvelous job as the power forward of this team. But the team of Democrats is feeding her the ball again and again so she can slam-dunk the information to the public.
Purple's slime was ridiculous and not remotely true.
Yes, Deborah, actually the statement was in conflict! . Purple was stating that she's the only one on the committee who has been effective. He was saying that either because he's ignorant of what th 1/6 members themselves say about it (including Liz); OR he was saying it just to be mean-spirited and trying to "own" the Libs. It was a jackassed thing to say. Because it was spreading false information. I hope Charlie takes it down. I need The Bulwark to keep things True and Factual.
That is a purposeful strategy by the Committee
Thank you. That comment raised my BP by 30 points.
hahahaha!! I had to delete my first response.
After listening to the montage of vile, vitriolic threats received by Kinzinger, itтАЩs a reminder of an under-the-radar remark by one Republican, that the reason Trump survived two impeachments is because members of Congress feared for their lives and the lives of their families if they voted to impeach, even as they wanted to vote Yes.
We are officially a banana republic. The environment of political violence is impossible to ignore. It has stealthy negative effects, like inhibiting good people from political participation.
Chilling. No wonder IтАЩm afraid to put a bumper sticker on my car.
We are supposedly an "anocracy," according to CIA criteria. In layman's terms I think it means were headed for trouble.
I listened to those recordings thinking wondering how many firearms those folks might have.