Saw that too, and agreed. But I also took that as a cautionary tale for people on the center left like me. Actions taken to enhance our power beyond the will of the voters will often lead to over-reach, which will ultimately lead to backlash
I see a different cautionary tale. While the left talks itself out of exercising power in any form, the right flagrantly and shamelessly does the exact thing you talked yourself out of and no one even bats an eye, and they reap dividends for decades. The left has to stop fighting with its hands tied behind its back. The left is playing to lose honorably, and the right is playing to win.
Since Reagan, the Republican always pushed beyond the rules. Over the years, they learned they could push beyond the laws. Trump has demonstrated that you can literally try to overturn the government and with enough lawyers he will getaway with it. Also, the Dems have always overestimated the American public. Now, they are realizing that lies and intimidation are working for the MAGA folks. The press loves drama and conflict. Safety, freedom, and democracy are not as exciting. The best things would be for the FBI to arrest Trump as a Putin puppet and security risk and put him in jail immediately. Let the courts sort that out for four years.
I like this idea. But he could still run for president and, if he won, hold office from prison. There is no prohibition in the Constitituion on felons running for or holding office. Just insurrectionists. And, per SCOTUS, Congress would have to initiate that which would not happen if we get a GOP-controlled Congress in 2025.
He could be arrested because heтАЩs a security risk and for sharing secrets with a foreign power. That would be close enough to treason to disqualify him.
Yeah, that would, but they'd have to have evidence. So far, no investigation has found it. And they need a predicate to open one. That means, according to DOJ, facts or circumstances that reasonably indicate that a federal crime has been, is being, or will be committed. Are you aware of any such facts or circumstances?
The Dems are perfectly capable of overreaching on abortion. Witness what Governor Kemp did to Stacey Abrams on that issue. She would not agree to any limits whatsoever on abortion and that allowed him to effectively neutralize the issue. The Democrats' extreme position on abortion never gets talked about when Republicans are so busy stupidly defining the abortion issue by opposing 1% of the abortions that 90% of the public support - the exceptions of rape, incest and life of the mother.
Most countries draw the line on abortion at 15 weeks. Let Democrats defend second trimester abortion that Roe allowed and a strong majority of people don't support.
It's even worse than that. I live in Arizona and when Ducey proposed his court packing scheme, his justification was that the court was overloaded. The State Supreme Court justices responded "no we're not". But he (Ducey) and they (the GOP state legislators) did it anyway. There was plenty of outrage when he did it - but not enough to stop it.
Interesting...conservatives "pack" the court, while liberals just appoint justices. Not sure why the derogatory term "packing" has to be used when a governor or president is simply carrying forward their constitutional duty to fill vacancies on the court.
Another demerit for the AZ GOP that I just learned: Gov. Ducey actually packed the state Supreme Court, adding 2 justices. Where is the outrage?!
Saw that too, and agreed. But I also took that as a cautionary tale for people on the center left like me. Actions taken to enhance our power beyond the will of the voters will often lead to over-reach, which will ultimately lead to backlash
I see a different cautionary tale. While the left talks itself out of exercising power in any form, the right flagrantly and shamelessly does the exact thing you talked yourself out of and no one even bats an eye, and they reap dividends for decades. The left has to stop fighting with its hands tied behind its back. The left is playing to lose honorably, and the right is playing to win.
Since Reagan, the Republican always pushed beyond the rules. Over the years, they learned they could push beyond the laws. Trump has demonstrated that you can literally try to overturn the government and with enough lawyers he will getaway with it. Also, the Dems have always overestimated the American public. Now, they are realizing that lies and intimidation are working for the MAGA folks. The press loves drama and conflict. Safety, freedom, and democracy are not as exciting. The best things would be for the FBI to arrest Trump as a Putin puppet and security risk and put him in jail immediately. Let the courts sort that out for four years.
I like this idea. But he could still run for president and, if he won, hold office from prison. There is no prohibition in the Constitituion on felons running for or holding office. Just insurrectionists. And, per SCOTUS, Congress would have to initiate that which would not happen if we get a GOP-controlled Congress in 2025.
He could be arrested because heтАЩs a security risk and for sharing secrets with a foreign power. That would be close enough to treason to disqualify him.
Yeah, that would, but they'd have to have evidence. So far, no investigation has found it. And they need a predicate to open one. That means, according to DOJ, facts or circumstances that reasonably indicate that a federal crime has been, is being, or will be committed. Are you aware of any such facts or circumstances?
Yes, the orange sob should have been in the clink long ago, maybe Jan 10, 2021.
Yes Mingus, true words. I have said the same.
Clinton said it best.
"Abortion should be safe, legal and rare." Quite the radical view these days.. Overreach is a systemic Republican problem.
The Dems are perfectly capable of overreaching on abortion. Witness what Governor Kemp did to Stacey Abrams on that issue. She would not agree to any limits whatsoever on abortion and that allowed him to effectively neutralize the issue. The Democrats' extreme position on abortion never gets talked about when Republicans are so busy stupidly defining the abortion issue by opposing 1% of the abortions that 90% of the public support - the exceptions of rape, incest and life of the mother.
Most countries draw the line on abortion at 15 weeks. Let Democrats defend second trimester abortion that Roe allowed and a strong majority of people don't support.
Thx. News to me. Now I know why Rs are constantly accusing Dems of packing the court. More narcissitic projection.
It's even worse than that. I live in Arizona and when Ducey proposed his court packing scheme, his justification was that the court was overloaded. The State Supreme Court justices responded "no we're not". But he (Ducey) and they (the GOP state legislators) did it anyway. There was plenty of outrage when he did it - but not enough to stop it.
Interesting...conservatives "pack" the court, while liberals just appoint justices. Not sure why the derogatory term "packing" has to be used when a governor or president is simply carrying forward their constitutional duty to fill vacancies on the court.
"Packing" is adding seats and then fillling them. That's what Ducey did.