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David Court's avatar

I think that, to make them own it, as your second point says, one needs to point it out in the upcoming confirmation hearings loud and clear with good questioning of the nominees and spirited discussion in the sessions, some of which will be, or should be, at least partially shown live. Not that MAGA nuts will watch, but others will and that will spread the "they brought it, bought it and own it" requirement for the future.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

You honestly think he’s going to have hearings? Never!

He’ll call a recess of Congress and force the SC to defy him. He’s watching how his own party reacts, and then he’ll be taking names, to punish anyone who challenges his authority, and gets out of line.

We dealing with a real life Carman from South Park! A petulant and vengeful ten year old, and everyone must respect his authority!..:)

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David Court's avatar

I understand your frustration, but do not share your defeatism.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

David, it’s not defeatism. I’m not giving up, but I will pick my battles wisely.

I personally do not believe Trump will allow a hearing for his slew of unqualified, walking, talking disasters. He will challenge everyone to reel him in.

You need only understand this man’s pathology. He’s a sadist who wants to bring this entire nation to heel. In the words of Sun Tzu:

“Know thy enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles, you will never be defeated”

That’s all I’m saying David! We continually underestimate the guy, and all the people who support him; especially the billionaires.

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David Court's avatar

Robert, I, too, think one needs to resist wisely. I just think that resistance needs to start at the beginning to show it will not be a cakewalk. It can taper off thereafter, but, as the saying after the Holocaust says, Fight the Beginning.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

We can start from the beginning, but going after his cabinet nominees will work against us. I just believe this isn’t the hill we want to die on. Let’s watch, learn, and strategize, and pounce when the opportunity presents itself.

Based on his judgment, it won’t be long…:)

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David Court's avatar

Robert, I said nothing about dying on this hill. I said fight the beginning, show them what is wrong, but don't stop the process (which we really can't effectively anyway), and then let them die on the hills of their own making.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Fair enough! I pretty much agree with you, so you’ll get no argument from me…:)

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David Court's avatar

🥂👍

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JF's avatar

I agree; hearings would put objections on record. There will be no hearings and GOP will accept it.

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Deutschmeister's avatar

Yes, point it out by all means ... but then sit back and say "But this is what the people chose to empower, so they need to accept the results. Remember that if it doesn't end well." The verbs are object and brand -- express opposition but demand accountability. The political ads will write themselves over time as long as gravity flows downward -- "HEY -- Had Enough Yet?".

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heybige's avatar

I mentioned this is another comment but I'll leave it here as well: that message ain't gonna work. James Carville offered 'betrayal'. "Donald Trump promises to make voters' lives better and he betrayed them." It takes the responsibility off the voter and puts it on Trump

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