[On the April 29, 2022 episode of The Bulwark’s “Beg to Differ” podcast, guest Bill Galston revealed that elected officials in both the Democratic and Republican parties are considering fielding a Macron-style third-party candidate for 2024 if there’s Biden-Trump rematch.]
Josh Barro (guest host): Bill, I want to ask about something that you mentioned in your column, because you’re somewhat pessimistic about European politics and the center. But you also suggested that this might be a moment where you could have a serious third-party center movement here in the United States, especially if we had a rematch between Joe Biden and Donald Trump in the 2024 election. I was a little surprised by that, can you sketch out why that opportunity would be there?
William Galston: Yeah, it’s quite simple. A rematch between Joe Biden and Donald Trump would bring together in one election, two of the most unpopular candidates in recent memory. And I know for a fact, although I’m not at liberty to name names, that serious elected officials in both political parties are considering this option seriously.
Now, whether it’s a good idea or not is a different question altogether. But there is discontent in the center with a choice between a Trumpified Republican party on the one hand, and a Democratic party that seems to have lost its ability to put the left-wing of the party in its place, rather than yielding to it on a regular basis.
So there is an opening, what would happen if someone moved to fill it is an interesting and somewhat imponderable question. My fear is that the effort might very well end up taking more out of the Democratic candidate’s hide than the Republican’s, which I doubt is the intention of the elected officials who are considering this strategy.
But on the other hand, there is a case to be made, that we may be nearing a kind of Macron moment in the United States, where the two political parties that we’ve had for more than a century are sort of like rotten oaks that can be blown over with a sufficiently large wind.