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Former Rep. Kinzinger calling Musk the President Elect and Trump the VP is PERFECT. We need to mock these self-serving gangsters. It also serves to cause Trump to question having Musk on his team, which is a bonus!

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Exactly. I noticed last night on MSNBC that several D House members were using similar references. This was very encouraging because maybe the Dems are finally realizing they need to have a unified message and little catch phrases and descriptors that get used repeatedly. It’s been working for the Rs and the Ds so far are ineffective at countering it. For now, I’m cheered by a mental image of someone like Jasmine Crockett passing out a list of these phrases and descriptors in a closed door meeting and saying “Y’all need to get on board with this . . .” If that’s not how it’s happening, it should be.

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This is exactly what we need. Psyop on Donald Trump. The Russians are doing it, so the anti-Trump coalition should as well.

Find out what media outlet has the most of Donald Trump's (limited) attention, and send the surrogates out to manipulate the man.

Someone should be on Newsmax saying that Donald Trump has been bought and paid for like a streetwalker. Dem surrogates on Fox should be on waxing on about how Elon is obviously calling all the shots and Trump is a puppet. People shout be waxing poetic about President Elon on Truth social. Podcasters should cast Trump as the beta to Elon's alpha. Wealthy donor class types should glibly and publicly remark that they had no idea Trump was so broke that he needs Elon's money this badly.

At every level, Trump needs to hear that he is perceived as America's sloppy seconds, and then Elon will be out on his apartheid behind, and that puts a wedge in the MAGA coalition. Let's Yojimbo these ...guys. I really wanted to end that sentence differently.

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I think Trump is not all there and does not have guts to stand up to Musk. Wouldn't be surprised if he were deeply in debt to Musk.

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Once the second half of President Mump has the nuclear codes and the big button in his little hands, he will be able to tell the SNAKE to take a hike before he snaps his fingers and SNAKE's federal contracts go up in smoke.

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He hasn't been looking too well lately. At this point they'd be taking the car keys away from Grandpa, yet we gave him the nuclear codes??

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We all know what happens when you shut down the government, they have no clue because it never impacted them. As someone on Social Security, the rage which will ensue when government services are delayed will be huge (I’ve lived through a few). Elon may have no clue, but there are plenty of Republican office holders who do. If they don’t, they will hobble their “power” before the inauguration.

There was no “landslide” regardless of what they claim. People wanted change, but make it even harder for folks to buy their groceries and pay their rent/mortgage and they will turn on those they deem in control. And a South African billionaire is the perfect target.

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How, though, do we make sure Republicans can't pin it on Democrats if it happens now? After Jan. 20, that won't be possible, even for Fox News, Donald Trump and Lindsey Graham.

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I don't the budget is for right now. It has to be completed April 15th for fiscal year Oct 1st.

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I disagree. People respond against who is in charge when they are struggling. Trump has already walked back his claim he can fix prices. It’s about basic needs, not logic. Most people don’t bother with the news, and when you are struggling to pay bills you look at who is in charge. Biden did a great job, but because folks continue to struggle they laid the blame on him.

Look at the Amazon delivery worker strike. Folks will be pissed at Bezos when deliveries are delayed, no matter what he tries to do to blame the under paid drivers. Delivery drivers and Amazon workers are folks we know personally, especially in smaller communities.

Trump and his minions rode a wave of dissatisfaction to be elected. When things get worse they won’t have the luxury of blaming others—the MAGAs hold all branches of government (judicial, executive and legislative), for now. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

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I read another post that said "there is no FELON without ELON"...

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Should listen to Lawrence O'Donnell 's show from last night! Sheldon Whitehouse really had a few good jabs at the guys in their playpen!!! Much needed laughs 😀😀

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Trump might as well be Elon's caddy.

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I'm not sure Trump is the VP, but I know Vance isn't.

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Although it should be Unelected President Elon and VP Trump.

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Agreed. Nothing turns CFT against a person faster than implying he is that someone's cuck.

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