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And what Trump is doing is he's applying this age-old Jewish stereotype, which is that, of course, a Jew can't be courageous. Of course, a Jew couldn't be at the front. Of course, a Jew couldn't be doing all the things Zelensky is doing. Therefore, it must be a scam. And so this whole argument that Zelensky is taking money,
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spending it on yachts, that he's a war profiteer, that is 100% pure anti-Semitism. It has zero basis in reality. And we've kind of let it slip through. And that's because Trump has pushed the needle so far.
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Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. I'm delighted to be here with fellow Tim, Timothy Snyder, professor of history at Yale, author of the new book On Freedom. He's also written a few other books, including Bloodlands, Europe Between Hitler and Stalin, and On Tyranny, 20 Lessons from the 20th Century.

Trump and Vance are pioneering a form of politics where American power means nothing, everything is bad, and politicians focus on tearing people down—and getting other Americans to do the same. Plus, the challenge of defining freedom, why conservative Jews are giving Trump a pass on his antisemitism, and a good and insightful poll on the presidential race.

Timothy Snyder joins Tim Miller.

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Snyder's new book, "On Freedom"
Sidney Blumenthal's piece on Trump's Hitlerian logic

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