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I’m old enough to remember when Joe Biden said he didn’t lose any service members since he became president.

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And I'm old enough to remember when Trump said that in some states they're allowed to take newborn babies put them aside and decide whether to murder them or not. I'm also old enough to have been told by people in my lovely Republican neighborhood that abortions wouldn't be necessary if women would just keep their legs together. This is from a supposedly nice person. And a Christian. So at this point my opinion is that just like abortion, This is a decision that should be made between the person involved and the ones who know his health situation the best. And then the rest of us just have to suck it up and prevent Trump from becoming president. However, we need to do it.

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Governor Northam said he wanted that for Virginia. Moreover, at least a few states have turned down laws that would have required medical attention for children who survive abortion. So, what Trump said was essentially true.

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We're not talking about a fetus who survives a late term abortion. I'm talking about the ridiculous idea that people have 9 month abortions just because they don't feel like having the kid and they were too lazy to get it done earlier

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Except, that’s not what he said. He said that there are some states that want to allow for survivors of abortion not to get medical attention and to be left to die. And this happens to be true.

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If you don't like that example you could pick any number of other lies that he told during the debate, so we're basically arguing liar versus a person who can't remember. Sorry, I know which one I'd rather have. You can always be reminded but you can't fix a liar

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Biden‘s first answer was a lie, about the unemployment rate when he became president.

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Remember the one of the rules was that neither candidate would have notes. It is not surprising that some of his facts and figures might be a little off. Trump didn't need notes because he was not the least concerned about even being in the ballpark.

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Well he said something that wasn't accurate. so was it a lie or a mistake? I mean is he forgetful or a deliberate liar? Or you just going to pick one or the other depending on what you want to prove? The other thing I'm old enough to know is that I'm not stupid, but I no longer have the ability to remember facts and figures off the top of my head, especially in the kind of circumstance he was in the pressure of being under the spotlight and probably worrying and wondering when Trump was going to bring up one or both of his sons with his deceitful crap.

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I think that’s a completely sensible statement. Thought spy to both of them. On the other hand as bad, certain things Joe knows are false (good people on both sides, for instance).

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Well, I'd have to go re-listen to it in order to confirm that that's what he said and I have no intention of doing that

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Northam is a pediatric neurologist and we all know what he said and meant unless we are, I don’t know, Opus Dei or Samuel Alito.

Babies who could not be saved would be kept comfortable from birth until their death.

That happens often. Mothers and fathers have photos taken of their babies posthumously because there was so little time. Babies in unbelievable agony are kept warm, and cuddled, until they pass away. Babies with no brains are held by their mothers and kissed until they die.

That’s what Northam said. He just talks like a doctor.

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