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If you don't like that example you could pick any number of other lies that he told during the debate, so we're basically arguing liar versus a person who can't remember. Sorry, I know which one I'd rather have. You can always be reminded but you can't fix a liar

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Biden‘s first answer was a lie, about the unemployment rate when he became president.

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Remember the one of the rules was that neither candidate would have notes. It is not surprising that some of his facts and figures might be a little off. Trump didn't need notes because he was not the least concerned about even being in the ballpark.

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Well he said something that wasn't accurate. so was it a lie or a mistake? I mean is he forgetful or a deliberate liar? Or you just going to pick one or the other depending on what you want to prove? The other thing I'm old enough to know is that I'm not stupid, but I no longer have the ability to remember facts and figures off the top of my head, especially in the kind of circumstance he was in the pressure of being under the spotlight and probably worrying and wondering when Trump was going to bring up one or both of his sons with his deceitful crap.

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I think that’s a completely sensible statement. Thought spy to both of them. On the other hand as bad, certain things Joe knows are false (good people on both sides, for instance).

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