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Hey guys, I just got off with Nicole Wallace where we were doing a double bulwark feature. Both me and Tim on in the same hour. We talked about how Trump is tanking the economy on tariffs. Talked about crazy Laura Loomer. Think you guys are gonna love it. Check it out right now.
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Tim, we were talking before the break about all of the seats put into motion. The Florida races aren't getting as much press. Well, nothing's getting as much press as it deserves because of the sort of volume of chaos that Trump does. But the Wisconsin seat, obviously vitally important, the liberal winning the seat on the state Supreme Court.
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But in a normal political climate, Democrats swinging to ruby red districts where no one spent any money. This is just pure voter sentiment. 13, 15, 17 points would be news all over the world.

Tim Miller and Sarah Longwell join Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC’s Deadline: White House to share their takes on the fallout of Donald Trump’s latest tariffs and how voters are reacting to rising prices and job uncertainty. They also discuss the growing influence of far-right podcaster like Laura Loomer on Donald Trump.

Watch Deadline: White House: https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house

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Couldn't have happened to a nicer base.

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GOOD.

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I absolutely depend on Tim, Sarah, JVL, Andrew, and the rest of the intelligent, spicy, funny, Bulwark crew. I watch and read all the content they throw at us. It is calming to know there are other people that understand the shit tornado twirling overhead. Please keep up the hard work y’all. It is needed right now.

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i saw the show live and was cheering it on. Wallace is one of my favs and you & Tim did a great job.

So far, I know several people slammed by the tariffs. One got doged, another lost the chance to get a car because the price already skyrocketed, and my poor brother was ready to retire and his 401K tanked.

I have a neighbor who is a Cuban immigrant and scared she'll get attacked like the girl at Tufts.

None of these things needed to happen and they are all self-inflicted destructions.

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Trump is taxing everyone including the poor to pay for tax breaks for the rich. Can we stop talking about tariffs like they're some bad policy instruments Trump is using to assault the global trading system and our allies. The Maga crowd will just cheer until somebody tells'em they're paying for it.

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The Kremlin wall has been closed for burials for many years now, but it will certainly be opened for a hero such as Agent Krasnov when his time comes. We hope very soon..

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Arlington Cemetery is filled with graves of patriots and heroes who gave their lives to uphold democratic principles, values, and freedoms. Washington DC is filled with monuments honoring the souls who fought and were lost in wars. It sickens me to the core every time I hear DJT voters who literally sold out America over the price of eggs and who are now "worried". Hopefully they will experience the worst of the consequences of their vote.

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Something to consider are the timing of impacts of tariffs on the stock market and on inflation. The impact on the stock market is immediate, aided in part by market already being overpriced (ironically due to investors thinking trump was going to supercharge growth). The impact on inflation will take a bit longer to trickle thru and impact us.

Going back and reviewing Fed Reserve data on family wealth, note the wealthiest 10% own over 85% of stocks owned by Americans. The impact of the market crash is not so important to the majority of Americans, who have much more of net worth, if any, tied up in their homes.

Tariff induced Inflation on the other hand will hurt the middle class and the poor so much more. Until inflation starts impacting day to day life, many Americans will be indifferent to this foolish trade policy.

ps. my wife and I are watching Chris Hayes while I multitask. Watching his report that Pete Navarro may be behind the formula trump used to set tariff rates. Figures. Before he became the self proclaimed guru of trade policy, Navarro once upon a time presented himself as the national expert on electric deregulation. He provided advice to the state of California on how to implement deregulation of electric markets. It failed, California nearly went bankrupt and Gray Davis was impeached. Knucklehead wasn't satisfied with possibly crushing California's economy, now his misguided advice may tank the US economy. End of rant.

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Peter Navarro is nothing short of a menace to society. IOW, perfect fit for Trumpworld. Another Trumpworld financial phony I saw on CNN, Stephen Moore, was trying to say Trump is the best negotiator this nation, if not the world, has ever seen. It'll be only a few months before scores of jobs and manufacturing is re-shored from overseas. Whatever pain people will feel is very temporary, and all that's needed is patience and belief in Trump's dealmaking genius. IOW, just buck up, America. Peter and Stephen are not very smart, but they're happy to shill on TV.

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I wish you would post all your clips, I don’t watch cable news so I love to see you out there.

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Thank you for showing the appearances on TV. I recall folks had asked for you to post them and.. ta daaa... here they are! We want to see you out there!

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I'm enjoying these commentaries, but I think, like the hand-wringers in the mainstream press, we're dancing around a major factor giving rise to Trump's popularity: the broad and deep strain of bigotry in America's soul.

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Sure, but bigots gotta eat too. In fact, they need to eat more to fuel their bigotry.

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Love you, Sarah!

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Question Bulwark folks.... is there any data available comparing Dems and Reps before the tariff announcement and after? Once the news came out, did votes for Republican candidates drop at all??

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I haven't had cable for years, and I don't miss cable news at all, but we need more people like Tim and Sarah on there.

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I would like to point out that the White House does not know what day it is: https://www.state.gov/todays-briefing-schedule/

If they clean this up, it states: Tuesday April 4, there will be no press briefing.

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Any day with no press briefing by Karoline Leavitt is a day WITH sunshine. Calendar date mixup or not.

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( Nice work on MSNBC, but those guys broke my heart with their coverage of the 2024 election). As to all the coverage we're about to hear today and throughout the weekend I offer my take:

1. There is no plan!

2. Trump is a ConMan

3. He is a convicted felon accused of 34 counts of business and tax fraud.

4. He already bankrupted at least 6 companies. (he learned in so doing that there is a lot of loose cash floating around during bankruptcy proceedings).

5. He is a sociopath who doesn't care about you.

6. To get even more attention he will destroy what is in his control, in this case, our country. It is his indisputable character to destroy what would be precious to others.

7. He and his minions will pick over the pieces sweep up the cash and declare it a Great Day of Liberation in America as all of us at long last are liberated from our material goods and moral values.

8. OR we stop paying attention to the mindless drivel, become active in our resistance, and unify around a host of candidates to defeat and reconstruct OUR government! Turn off all of the distractions focus on what is right in front of us now, and fight

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Nicolle Wallace is must viewing every day.

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As I've been telling folks who voted for trump or didn't vote at all, and are now feeling a bit chagrinned: you broke it, you own it! Also remind them, trump once bankrupted a casino....

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Well, he bankrupted six casinos, including Trump Taj Mahal (1991), Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino (1992), Plaza Hotel (1992), Trump Castle Hotel and Casino (1992), Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts (2004), and Trump Entertainment Resorts (2009). That takes real talent.

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This information needs to be put out there more and more! I have heard many Republicans say that they don’t believe that because they are convinced he is a financial genius ….

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China's retaliatory tariffs are getting a lot of visibility today, but the real dagger is the rare earth element export restrictions. I've been warning about that for a long time now, and that right there is the dagger to the American tech and defense sectors. The next step is for them to offload their US treasuries onto the global market and fuck the dollar. This is so incredibly dumb.

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Trump wants that. He wants to tank the dollar to make American products so cheap dumb non Americans can't resist buying. But that isn't going to happen because they would rather pay more or do without to punish us. They want to remake the whole global financial order. We all will be poor.

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The main products that other countries want from us are mainly agricultural products … and he is putting a big screw to our farmers with the tariffs and cuts by DOGE ! Japan and Germany already produce better cars so they can live without our automobiles. We don’t make enough quality electronics to offer up. Apply common sense to purchasing products we all shop for. Trump has no clue what products we really offer to other countries because he doesn’t go shopping at WalMart or any grocery stores. Never has lived a middle class life!

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Yes, I'm afraid what he's ordering up with this inanity is global recession. I wonder how people in other countries might feel about us in years to come. They must already feel irate. But I think the stench of what we're doing to so many other countries will not wash off of us for a long time.

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Trump is a businessman like Musk is an engineer.

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Trump‘s tariffs are not economic or trade policy.

Chris Murphey is right (on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIALTQjMKma/?igsh=MTNxOHluOTltcTB2ZA==

Just like he attacked the law firms and universities, the tariffs are a tool that will force companies in private industry to come to him, one-by-one, and agree to be loyal – in order to obtain tariff relief. He is playing a much larger game to stay in power and destroy our democracy. And the republicans in Washington just sit back and let him. He must have incredible dirt on ALL of them.

My opinion? Trump no longer worries - or cares - about voters because this plan will keep him or his family& loyalists in power forever. He probably doesn't need the voters any more.

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Sadly, I think you're wrong. Trump's tariffs ARE an economic, a trade and very much a TAX POLICY and it is internally logical.

Trump allows the Right to act out fantasies. The Right has fantasized about replacing income taxes with consumption taxes forever.

TARIFFS ARE A CONSUMPTION TAX!!!

Trade wars are a UNIVERSAL IMPOSITION OF CONSUMPTION TAX!!!

Navarro, Bannon and Trump believe that the U.S. will win any trade war because our consumer market is so big. It's evil. It's insane. But it's logically consistent.

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Exactly. I keep wondering why people aren't shouting this from the rooftops. The tariffs are the first move in axing income taxes. The receipts from tariffs cannot be a substitute for income taxes. But these geniuses have to start somewhere. Also, it's not an accident they are timing the start of tariffs with their initial legislation on the gigantic tax cuts for billionaires. Just as they had to let Elon's chainsaw miniaturize the size of the Gov., to make fiscal room for the cuts. Groundwork is being laid. I don't see people connecting the dots.

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I don't know why this understanding isn't gaining ground. Maybe it's because Trump's goal is so audacious (and insane).

Their tariff formula is a HUGE CLUE! It's not even based on other countries' tariff rates. But it IS based on net imports of goods and the goal is to tax ALL that consumption first.

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I acknowledge that both things can be true.

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Thank you for your original comment and the Murphy video. You're totally right, of course. I have just been horrified to realize that Trump's vision is EVEN DARKER than what we imagine.

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You're so right - he does not care or worry what anyone thinks - doesn't need votes, doesn't care about stock market, doesn't care about world leaders. We are past that point.

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tariffs like sales and gasoline taxes are extremely regressive. This hits working and middle class people the hardest

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Yes, and with any "luck" at all, a lot of people will be reaching for some pitchforks, come the midterms. There's an awful lot of rot that needs tossing out of office, but pent up angry energy can go a long way.

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How long before stories appear about retirees having to return to work, or unable to afford to survive? It’s got to be a matter of weeks away.

Folks who just retired, but whose retirement funds got hit by the market drop, Tesla losing 25% valuation, those in Trump’s base screwed by any number of pump and dumps, and now their cost of living is about to get hit.

The number of people living paycheck to paycheck, working multiple jobs, only to find themselves dragged down.

This is nightmare fuel, and I hope it’s not where we’re headed, but what else is down this road?

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I retired and moved into a van I built out. Now I'm back to working full time and just bought me a car. I'm down-sizing and selling my van. I'm in the process of moving into my car. It doesn't scare me now.

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that would be me

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South Korea❤️

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I love Sarah's bowling analogy. Yeah, we're definitely getting stuck in the gutter now!

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Hey random question. What happened to AB Stoddard? I haven’t seen her on the bulwark in a while.

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As I recall, AB decided to step back for a while. I can only imagine how easy it would be to burn out, given the mad pace of news under the second Trump regime. I hope she'll be able to return to action before someone else burns out!

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these guys are working really hard in real time. Between the stuff he has to watch, his podcasts, increasing TV appearances and conversations with other thought leaders Tim Miller has got to be working and traveling 14 hours a day just to keep up with the velocity of all this

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No worries, we won't be talking about tariffs for long. As Malcom Nance reported, the US just tranfered six (!) B2 stealth bombers to Diego Garcia airbase in the Indian Ocean. Buckel up everyone.

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Yep. Question is what's the target?

Iran in conjunction with Israel or Greenland.

We are so far down the rabbit hole we are looking out from our collective perineum.

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My money is on Iran. Trump could (ab)use a relatively uncontroversional war to try and unite his subjects behind him, oldest dictator trick in the books. And it would take a lot of attention off his domestic shenanigans and global tariffs fuck up (pardon my French). Either way, it's pretty worrying.

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oof. That's alot of eggs to put in a small basket. Isn't that like 30% of the bombers?

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Yes it is. Complete with refueling/armament crews/equipment and temporary shelters apparently. A bit much for a mere show of force, even for someone like Hegseth who loves to swing his big dick around. I'm not an expert, but I was under the impression these birds usually fly alone directly from/back to the US.

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Hey, since when has placing a critical portion of our fighting force and military equipment on a single base in the Pacific ever backfired?

I'm no expert, but this seriously weirds me out. The best case scenario is that it's illogical. The worst case scenario is that it benefits people who are hostile to America.

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Oh my, I didn't even make the Pearl Harbour connection, but now that you mention it, smells fishy, almost honeypot-ish. Seems kinda stupid, but I think Malcom knows what he's talking about.

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ruh row....I'm looking at you Iran

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He has a mission to punish us for turning him out in 2020.

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Yeah if it works it won’t be overnight - it’ll take at least 15 years! Does anyone want to wait that long, or do they want their eggs now??

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I hate how you never address the fact that ppl didn’t vote for Kamilla or is it Kamala sorry I’m not sure … b/c they are racist misogynistic a’holes. I phoned banked in rural southeastern WI … that experience is as valid as your focus groups who, frankly, lie to you as much as not IMO.

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In the voters' defense, they are also lying to themselves. We need a liquored up focus group. No one should have less than 3 or four drinks before being asked to weigh in.

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Well, I know I almost need to be liquored up to listen to these folks. So let's all be toasted for these go-rounds, us and them. 🍹🙃

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Sarah is right, some of these cult members won’t change their view on Trump until they end up on the streets.

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And even then they won't. But she is right, there is a split between MAGA and the rest of the uninformed voters. The latter will turn on him on a dime.

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It's like the Covid deniers who continued to claim Covid was a hoax as they lay dying of Covid.

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Yes, a twofer! Is this a secret plan to take over MSNBC? Enjoyed it. Keep on keeping on.

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Tim and Sarah are the best. And kudos to Nicole Wallace for having them on. 👍👍

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"Touching the stove"--a lot like "Smell the Glove" from 'This is Spinal Tap.'

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I love this cross pollination. Keep it up. 👍

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The Bulwark is everywhere! Keep it up.

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I am so proud of Tim and Sarah. NOT talking heads. Real people. With humor and rock solid examples. I feel like I’ve watched you both bloom. So proud. Yes I’m an old lady and could be both your mothers.

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Couldn’t happen to a better group of people!!!

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