The WaPo 8000 word investigative report on Garland DOJ’s slow pace on Trump and cronies involvement in J 6 is not (sun flower)”yellow journalism” but not a dispassionate “white paper”, either.
Hundreds of convictions of actual rioters is not nothing. Those convictions and no acquittals has served to prevent further violence when Trump has sought to call the mob again.
Working up the ladder is standard procedure for both FBI and DOJ prosecutors and may prove beneficial
In the end.
Neither WaPo nor we know what Grand Jury testimony has been secured to corroborate or expand on what is known publicly after Jan 6 Congressional hearings.
Same is true of the Classified Documents case.
A 90% ready case invites higher probability of “hung jury” rather than a 100% case a “conviction”.
The only adage that really matters here ( and the one Garland, Monaco, Smith and Wray follow) is: “if you go after the king, you must be sure you “kill” him” because if you don’t he will take his revenge — in this case destroying “rule of law” as a bedrock of American democracy.
That’s a risk WaPo and Bulwark seem to
be willing to take. Thankfully for the country, Jack Smith and his colleagues are not.
Trump's word salad (dog's lunch?) may be nothing more than a symptom of finally reaching his capacity for juggling untruths with any resemblance to logical consistency.
On today's pod with Chris Christie, he said that he supported Trump because he didn't want Clinton to become president. I wish you would have asked him, knowing everything we know now about Trump, does he still think the country is better off for Trump having been president instead of Clinton.
Not to mention the swipes at Biden: "Not up to the job," "has gone so far left no one can vote for him," and of course, saying that if Trump is the nominee he "couldn't vote for Biden" so will leave his ballot blank.
As of 5:43 pm 6/20, 5.7 million people had viewed @ACYN's tweet of Bret Baier's recitation of the denunciations of then-POTUS Trump by a litany of former senior Trump Administration WH staff and Cabinet Secretaries after Trump asserted that he "knows the best people.".
I wish someone would ask Barr if Hillary would have really been worse than what he himself helped to propel to the oval office?
That said.. I am all about welcoming every single American who is currently trying to save democracy and the rule of law. The enemy of...etc, and better late than never.
I welcome Barr and Christie, and trust Christie for half a minute, but trust Barr for not one nanosecond. Still...
Tom was so agog at Trump’s performance that he could barely articulate. It was kind of refreshing to see somebody who is always so scholarly just at a loss for words.
Because I don’t have cable I’m not forced to have Fox, so I’ll have to track down the interview.
In the immortal words of Erick Erickson, “What an idiot.”
Yes, Gabriel Schoenfeld's piece, "It's Not the Law's Fault That Trump Broke It" is great for a better understanding of the Espionage Act, and a needed response to The Free Press piece that's gotten a lot more attention than it probably deserves -- typical of why I stopped reading TFP. Sticking up for Assange in the middle was gratuitous and, I think, dead wrong, but it doesn't detract from the main point, so well expressed by the title.
“GOP presidential candidate Chris Christie suggested Tuesday that former President Trump should have “skipped a couple of rounds of golf” to go through boxes containing classified materials after Trump said he did not have time to do so in response to a subpoena.”
Or, just spitballing here, maybe he could have spent less time stonewalling the Biden transition, listening to nut jobs like Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, er al., and planning a coup during the approx. 2 1/2 mos. between the election and leaving office kicking and screaming.
So Trump is too busy go through his boxes to find missing TS documents which are a threat to National Security? I guess 18 holes on the golf course of far more important than securing documents that in the wrong hands could be a military and intelligence calamity for our armed forces.
Then Trump rails about Hunter’s sweetheart deal, even though Hunter paid his $1 million plus a fine and is on supervised probation for two years. A deal most people could have negotiated, as long as they admit guilt (Hunter did), show remorse (he did). As far as the gun charge? All the Trump acolyte’s (including his kids, Flynn, Sessions, Bannon, etc..) in need of a security clearance, all lied on their SF-86’s; regarding contacts with Russian officials. Jr., Kushner amd Manafort even attending a meeting during the 2016 campaign with a Russian Asset willing to give them dirt on Hillary; illegal!
Of course, no one was arrested or indicted and Trump eventually gave everyone of these clowns a TS clearance, after they were all denied. Yet, Hunter lies on a gun application, and now he has to attend classes and treatment.
1. I want I know what state Hunter applied for his gun license? I received mine in Fl (concealed carry), and the question of drugs never came up; only felony convictions.
2. I had a security clearance years ago and if I lied on my SF-86, not only would I have been denied a clearance, and fired from my job; I’d be in jail. SF-86’s are far more sensitive to National Security than a gun license.
I can only vociferously second Charlie's last Quick Take: "The J6 Committee’s work — and the pressure it put on DOJ to pursue the case — was even more important than we thought." The country owes Bennie Thompson, Liz Cheney, their colleagues and their staff an enormous debt of gratitude. Their names should live in honor.
"Garland’s failure to move decisively is disappointing, because it suggests that he was self-deterred from aggressively investigating Trump’s role in the attack on Congress and his concerted attempts to steal the election."
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Note to Mr Garland (and future AGs): sometimes the effort to remain apolitical in carrying out the functions of your position is just plain wrong. When the decision to not prosecute is delayed due to a potential target's political status then your non-intervention *is* political, no matter how you spin it. In this specific case, TFG and his underlings apparently violated federal laws and an investigation - or at least a preliminary investigation - should have been opened immediately. By not doing this you have contributed to the distrust that many Americans are now experiencing regarding our justice system.
The wacks in the New GOP already claim that the DOJ works on a two-tiered system, and your delays have made those on the Left agree. You have expressed one set of laws for the American people writ large, and a second one for those who claim political persecution - whether or not it actually exists.
As Barry Goldwater pithily summed it up (and this goes for the Ukraine "realists", too), “I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!”
We have two different standards of justice for Republican and Democratic politicians, and it's destroying our country. We're allowing the GOP to bully America to death. T***p needs to be sent to jail along with anyone threatening retaliation against law enforcement. Full stop.
The MAGA refrains of '"The establishment is corrupt! The whole system is rigged against us!" are basically a way of claiming a moral right of immunity from the rules of the system.
But planning for his departure from the White House with his defeat in the election. Nov 7, or after the lawsuits that didn’t go his way, not on Jan 7, or was it even later that he decided to actually leave. Less coup planning, more time for document sorting would have allowed more time for an orderly process. Sorry Donny, too busy doesn’t buy you anything.
Won't pass muster in a court of law, but Trump has to throw anything and everything at the wall hoping something will stick. Too bad he never listened to anyone except the "bigly" voices in his own little brain.
I got the feeling Fox was grifting Trump for veiwers
Classing Pennsylvania as a 'Midwest state' is a fine testament to the quality of geography education in the US.
The WaPo 8000 word investigative report on Garland DOJ’s slow pace on Trump and cronies involvement in J 6 is not (sun flower)”yellow journalism” but not a dispassionate “white paper”, either.
Hundreds of convictions of actual rioters is not nothing. Those convictions and no acquittals has served to prevent further violence when Trump has sought to call the mob again.
Working up the ladder is standard procedure for both FBI and DOJ prosecutors and may prove beneficial
In the end.
Neither WaPo nor we know what Grand Jury testimony has been secured to corroborate or expand on what is known publicly after Jan 6 Congressional hearings.
Same is true of the Classified Documents case.
A 90% ready case invites higher probability of “hung jury” rather than a 100% case a “conviction”.
The only adage that really matters here ( and the one Garland, Monaco, Smith and Wray follow) is: “if you go after the king, you must be sure you “kill” him” because if you don’t he will take his revenge — in this case destroying “rule of law” as a bedrock of American democracy.
That’s a risk WaPo and Bulwark seem to
be willing to take. Thankfully for the country, Jack Smith and his colleagues are not.
Trump's word salad (dog's lunch?) may be nothing more than a symptom of finally reaching his capacity for juggling untruths with any resemblance to logical consistency.
Hi Charlie,
On today's pod with Chris Christie, he said that he supported Trump because he didn't want Clinton to become president. I wish you would have asked him, knowing everything we know now about Trump, does he still think the country is better off for Trump having been president instead of Clinton.
I wondered the exact same thing. Misogyny is so deep in this country.
Not to mention the swipes at Biden: "Not up to the job," "has gone so far left no one can vote for him," and of course, saying that if Trump is the nominee he "couldn't vote for Biden" so will leave his ballot blank.
Exactly. It erodes his candidacy, presented as rooted in honesty. If he had real integrity, he would just list policy differences.
As of 5:43 pm 6/20, 5.7 million people had viewed @ACYN's tweet of Bret Baier's recitation of the denunciations of then-POTUS Trump by a litany of former senior Trump Administration WH staff and Cabinet Secretaries after Trump asserted that he "knows the best people.".
I wish someone would ask Barr if Hillary would have really been worse than what he himself helped to propel to the oval office?
That said.. I am all about welcoming every single American who is currently trying to save democracy and the rule of law. The enemy of...etc, and better late than never.
I welcome Barr and Christie, and trust Christie for half a minute, but trust Barr for not one nanosecond. Still...
Welcome to the Resistance boys!
Tom was so agog at Trump’s performance that he could barely articulate. It was kind of refreshing to see somebody who is always so scholarly just at a loss for words.
Because I don’t have cable I’m not forced to have Fox, so I’ll have to track down the interview.
In the immortal words of Erick Erickson, “What an idiot.”
Yes, Gabriel Schoenfeld's piece, "It's Not the Law's Fault That Trump Broke It" is great for a better understanding of the Espionage Act, and a needed response to The Free Press piece that's gotten a lot more attention than it probably deserves -- typical of why I stopped reading TFP. Sticking up for Assange in the middle was gratuitous and, I think, dead wrong, but it doesn't detract from the main point, so well expressed by the title.
From The Hill earlier today:
“GOP presidential candidate Chris Christie suggested Tuesday that former President Trump should have “skipped a couple of rounds of golf” to go through boxes containing classified materials after Trump said he did not have time to do so in response to a subpoena.”
Or, just spitballing here, maybe he could have spent less time stonewalling the Biden transition, listening to nut jobs like Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, er al., and planning a coup during the approx. 2 1/2 mos. between the election and leaving office kicking and screaming.
So Trump is too busy go through his boxes to find missing TS documents which are a threat to National Security? I guess 18 holes on the golf course of far more important than securing documents that in the wrong hands could be a military and intelligence calamity for our armed forces.
Then Trump rails about Hunter’s sweetheart deal, even though Hunter paid his $1 million plus a fine and is on supervised probation for two years. A deal most people could have negotiated, as long as they admit guilt (Hunter did), show remorse (he did). As far as the gun charge? All the Trump acolyte’s (including his kids, Flynn, Sessions, Bannon, etc..) in need of a security clearance, all lied on their SF-86’s; regarding contacts with Russian officials. Jr., Kushner amd Manafort even attending a meeting during the 2016 campaign with a Russian Asset willing to give them dirt on Hillary; illegal!
Of course, no one was arrested or indicted and Trump eventually gave everyone of these clowns a TS clearance, after they were all denied. Yet, Hunter lies on a gun application, and now he has to attend classes and treatment.
1. I want I know what state Hunter applied for his gun license? I received mine in Fl (concealed carry), and the question of drugs never came up; only felony convictions.
2. I had a security clearance years ago and if I lied on my SF-86, not only would I have been denied a clearance, and fired from my job; I’d be in jail. SF-86’s are far more sensitive to National Security than a gun license.
Yet, here we are!...:)
He applied in Delaware
Thank you. I figured it must be a blue state...:)
I can only vociferously second Charlie's last Quick Take: "The J6 Committee’s work — and the pressure it put on DOJ to pursue the case — was even more important than we thought." The country owes Bennie Thompson, Liz Cheney, their colleagues and their staff an enormous debt of gratitude. Their names should live in honor.
A normie Democrat wasn't willing to be assertive of their important prerogatives in the face of bullshit Republican victimization claims?
I'm shocked....SHOCKED!!!
Maybe one day the Dem party will decide to stop defaulting to tucking its tail between its legs. That would be swell.
"Garland’s failure to move decisively is disappointing, because it suggests that he was self-deterred from aggressively investigating Trump’s role in the attack on Congress and his concerted attempts to steal the election."
-----
Note to Mr Garland (and future AGs): sometimes the effort to remain apolitical in carrying out the functions of your position is just plain wrong. When the decision to not prosecute is delayed due to a potential target's political status then your non-intervention *is* political, no matter how you spin it. In this specific case, TFG and his underlings apparently violated federal laws and an investigation - or at least a preliminary investigation - should have been opened immediately. By not doing this you have contributed to the distrust that many Americans are now experiencing regarding our justice system.
The wacks in the New GOP already claim that the DOJ works on a two-tiered system, and your delays have made those on the Left agree. You have expressed one set of laws for the American people writ large, and a second one for those who claim political persecution - whether or not it actually exists.
fnord
As Barry Goldwater pithily summed it up (and this goes for the Ukraine "realists", too), “I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!”
We have two different standards of justice for Republican and Democratic politicians, and it's destroying our country. We're allowing the GOP to bully America to death. T***p needs to be sent to jail along with anyone threatening retaliation against law enforcement. Full stop.
The MAGA refrains of '"The establishment is corrupt! The whole system is rigged against us!" are basically a way of claiming a moral right of immunity from the rules of the system.
And it's pure projection.
“I was very busy, as you’ve sort of seen,”
said Trump.
But planning for his departure from the White House with his defeat in the election. Nov 7, or after the lawsuits that didn’t go his way, not on Jan 7, or was it even later that he decided to actually leave. Less coup planning, more time for document sorting would have allowed more time for an orderly process. Sorry Donny, too busy doesn’t buy you anything.
Won't pass muster in a court of law, but Trump has to throw anything and everything at the wall hoping something will stick. Too bad he never listened to anyone except the "bigly" voices in his own little brain.