I absolutely agree the cartels are a major issue and illegals are a major issue. I've been angrified by the fact the red states hit hardest are the States whose representatives refuse to find a bipartisan solution to try and alleviate any of this. Their only solution seems to be to ship immigrants to blue cities and force Dems to suffer …
I absolutely agree the cartels are a major issue and illegals are a major issue. I've been angrified by the fact the red states hit hardest are the States whose representatives refuse to find a bipartisan solution to try and alleviate any of this. Their only solution seems to be to ship immigrants to blue cities and force Dems to suffer the consequences. It can't be to force Dems to find a solution because the border states representatives won't work to find one. It seems it's just the cruelty involved in sending illegals north to an ugly winter and force them into a winter of misery. I truly am beginning to intensely dislike this rendition of the GOP. The cruelty really is their only point.
If you'd like to change the subject of this sub-thread from "whether there's a crisis" to "what should be done about it," we can do that.
It's cold on the border, too. Border communities are broke, too. There's no reason the border communities should be expected to shoulder this challenge by themselves. If the numbers are overwhelming in Denver or New York, they're overwhelming in Eagle Pass and Brownsville too. Blamestorming won't fix this. No human being is illegal; you might want to stick to more neutral terms like "undocumented" or "unauthorized" (and when in doubt it's usually safer to refer to human beings with nouns, such as "people," rather than adjectives). It is not the people who are the problem, it is the failure to manage them. It is not the states that are at fault, it is their representatives in Congress. It is not Dems suffering the consequences, it's migrants.
I wonder if there really is a solution. Immigration pressures are global. There are over 30 million war/conflict/political refugees world wide and then add to this the economically driven immigrants.
Libertarian think tanks like the Cato Institute think that making entry for work easier and changes in America's drug policies would help reduce human trafficking and undercut the drugs market upon which the cartels thrive.
The imbalance between the "haves" and "have nots" is so overwhelming (and the way us "haves" got our "have" is so tainted, at least regarding the economic drivers of this) that for sure there's no easy solution -- all the more reason that turning this into a political football, and delaying /attempts/ to solve it, is obscene. I am no Christian, but I do remember that when "Lazarus ate the crumbs from the rich man's table," it did not end well for the rich man.
Thanks for the great link, but it doesn't go to the Cato Institute piece. Any chance you could post that too?
There is a PDF link toward the bottom of the link that goes to the original report from CATO. As you probably know libertarian leaning CATO has always supported the freer movement of labor and trade. So it isn't free of bias... but does make some good arguments.
I absolutely agree the cartels are a major issue and illegals are a major issue. I've been angrified by the fact the red states hit hardest are the States whose representatives refuse to find a bipartisan solution to try and alleviate any of this. Their only solution seems to be to ship immigrants to blue cities and force Dems to suffer the consequences. It can't be to force Dems to find a solution because the border states representatives won't work to find one. It seems it's just the cruelty involved in sending illegals north to an ugly winter and force them into a winter of misery. I truly am beginning to intensely dislike this rendition of the GOP. The cruelty really is their only point.
If you'd like to change the subject of this sub-thread from "whether there's a crisis" to "what should be done about it," we can do that.
It's cold on the border, too. Border communities are broke, too. There's no reason the border communities should be expected to shoulder this challenge by themselves. If the numbers are overwhelming in Denver or New York, they're overwhelming in Eagle Pass and Brownsville too. Blamestorming won't fix this. No human being is illegal; you might want to stick to more neutral terms like "undocumented" or "unauthorized" (and when in doubt it's usually safer to refer to human beings with nouns, such as "people," rather than adjectives). It is not the people who are the problem, it is the failure to manage them. It is not the states that are at fault, it is their representatives in Congress. It is not Dems suffering the consequences, it's migrants.
I wonder if there really is a solution. Immigration pressures are global. There are over 30 million war/conflict/political refugees world wide and then add to this the economically driven immigrants.
Libertarian think tanks like the Cato Institute think that making entry for work easier and changes in America's drug policies would help reduce human trafficking and undercut the drugs market upon which the cartels thrive.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/article/15-myths-about-immigration-debunked/
The imbalance between the "haves" and "have nots" is so overwhelming (and the way us "haves" got our "have" is so tainted, at least regarding the economic drivers of this) that for sure there's no easy solution -- all the more reason that turning this into a political football, and delaying /attempts/ to solve it, is obscene. I am no Christian, but I do remember that when "Lazarus ate the crumbs from the rich man's table," it did not end well for the rich man.
Thanks for the great link, but it doesn't go to the Cato Institute piece. Any chance you could post that too?
There is a PDF link toward the bottom of the link that goes to the original report from CATO. As you probably know libertarian leaning CATO has always supported the freer movement of labor and trade. So it isn't free of bias... but does make some good arguments.
Ha, busted! I read the first few paragraphs and bookmarked the rest for later. Found it now; thanks very much.
Thanks for the links.